Hi Ken,
I was following that and then as shown in the link there for setting
up for eclipse:
"  1.Follow the instructions here to set up your eclipse environment.
"

I downloaded the readme file from the link. And while following that,
Around Line 104 in the file you'll see that it mentions instructions
to download GWT core projects.
This is where I became hesistant to continue. Also from the
instructions in setting up Eclipse:

"4 If you not on Windows, you will need to fix the gwt-dev project
reference

   1. Right click on the new incubator project in the explorer and
choose Properties
   2. Java Build Path
   3. Under the Projects tab, replace gwt-dev-windows as appropriate "

Isn't that again talking about using the gwt-dev-windows project and
not jar?

But if what you say is true and all I need is the GWT Tools section
(By section I again presume you are talking about the GWT tools
project which is mentioned to be checked out from SVN in the beginning
of the Making Incubator Better page), then would it be as simple as

1) Setting the GWT_ROOT (to GWT incubator )
2) Setting the GWT_TOOLs (to GWT Tools)
3) JDK_HOME

And then finally running my ant?

Thanks for the patience.

Suri


On Nov 10, 4:48 pm, "Isaac Truett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I hope I'm not wrong in my observations?
>
> No, you're absolutely right. The gen2 widgets are new and did not
> exist in the last Incubator release.
>
> > what concerns me was the additional
> > projects that I really have no idea about that I'm having to download
> > to get the incubator compiled.
>
> Are you following the instructions in the Making Incubator Better
> section of the wiki (link below)? The only other download you should
> need is the tools section of the main GWT project, which has libraries
> required to build GWT and the Incubator.
>
> http://code.google.com/docreader/#p=google-web-toolkit-incubator&s=go...
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:34 PM,Suri<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Issac,
> > Thanks for the info. I did actually go ahead and download that jar a
> > few days ago. However, that seems to be a different version from what
> > is available in the trunk. It seems to be all 1.x version as opposed
> > to the gen2 stuff. For example, I had gone through the sample for the
> > PagingScrollTableDemo from the code I had checked out from the SVN,
> > and then wanted to start using the idea in my own code. The very first
> > import of the FlexTable which in the SVN version is referenced as:
>
> > import com.google.gwt.gen2.table.override.client.FlexTable;
>
> > actually turns out to be in the
>
> > import com.google.gwt.widgetideas.table.client.overrides.FlexTable;
>
> > I hope I'm not wrong in my observations?
>
> > Thanks for any input. Additionally, I don't mind building from the
> > trunk for incubator, however what concerns me was the additional
> > projects that I really have no idea about that I'm having to download
> > to get the incubator compiled. For now, lets say I did actually
> > continue with the september version of the jar, I was ideally hoping
> > to use the gen2 code because I think that's where the improved
> > PagingScrollTable lies correct?
>
> >Suri
>
> > On Nov 10, 3:37 pm, "Isaac Truett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Suri,
>
> >> You do not need to download the GWT project and build it from trunk in
> >> order to build the Incubator.
>
> >> If you prefer an older Incubator build, you can download one here:
>
> >>http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit-incubator/downloads/list
>
> >> Please keep in mind that the most recent build currently available is
> >> from September. The Incubator classes evolve quickly; I always
> >> recommend building from trunk so that you can get the latest updates.
>
> >> - Isaac
>
> >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM,Suri<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> > Hi Issac
> >> > I'm trying to set up the GWT Incubator project. Do I need to have the
> >> > GWT source code checked out as well?
> >> > All I'd like really is the incubator jar file. Isn't there any other
> >> > way of obtaining that other than checking out the GWT core source/ GWT
> >> > Tools source/ GWT incubator source and building all together?
>
> >> > Thanks for any input.
>
> >> >Suri
>
> >> > On Nov 5, 10:17 am, "Isaac Truett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>Suri,
>
> >> >> There's a demo in the Incubator that you could look at. The code for
> >> >> it can be viewed online or you can download and setup the Incubator
> >> >> project locally (be sure to grab GWT 1.5.3 if you don't already have
> >> >> it). Links below.
>
> >> >> Incubator SVN 
> >> >> -http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit-incubator/source/checkout
> >> >> PagingScrollTableDemo 
> >> >> -http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit-incubator/source/browse/t...
> >> >> GWT 1.5.3 download 
> >> >> -http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/downloads/list
>
> >> >> Hope that helps.
>
> >> >> - Isaac
>
> >> >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM,Suri<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> >> > Hi Issac,
> >> >> > Since I'm still at a design level choosing my options, can I get a
> >> >> > sample code for the PagingScrollTable to be able to evaluate its use
> >> >> > for my purpose? I tried looking at the wiki for the incubator and all
> >> >> > there was was a definition for some bean.
>
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >Suri
>
> >> >> > On Nov 5, 2:44 am, "alex.d" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> Well, i started with trying to use 1.4 Table with 1.5 RCx GWT and
> >> >> >> encountered numerous problems while trying to compile the example on
> >> >> >> the page. After solving all the issues i finaly managed to get it to
> >> >> >> work, but it didn't play nice in my prety complex GUI layout with a
> >> >> >> lot of Panels: size and visibility issues. In comparison to it, a Ext
> >> >> >> GWT table was a half an hour work and it works prety stable. Basicaly
> >> >> >> you can see all my issues when you look at the comments on the
> >> >> >> incubator page. I didn't report the issues because people did it
> >> >> >> before me and the was no response to it, and because the project
> >> >> >> seemed to be dead - no updates in months(but that was severall weeks
> >> >> >> ago).
>
> >> >> >> On 4 Nov., 21:13, "Isaac Truett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > > Bugs, bugs and one more time bugs.
>
> >> >> >> > Alex,
>
> >> >> >> > What problems did you encounter with PagingScrollTable? Have you
> >> >> >> > entered them into the issue tracker?
>
> >> >> >> > - Isaac
>
> >> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:53 AM, alex.d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > > On 3 Nov., 15:30,Suri<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> Hi Alex,
> >> >> >> > >> Well here are my concerns on both areas but before I get to 
> >> >> >> > >> that I'd
> >> >> >> > >> like to mention that I'm developing I guess a relatively small 
> >> >> >> > >> module
> >> >> >> > >> but something I think is complex in terms of the amount of
> >> >> >> > >> functionality its providing. The idea is to have a table of 
> >> >> >> > >> data that
> >> >> >> > >> is retrieved from the server and displayed to the user
>
> >> >> >> > >> 1) The data should be sortable/pageable
> >> >> >> > >> 2) When the user clicks on a cell/row:
> >> >> >> > >>     - the row gets highlighted
> >> >> >> > >>     -  the info of that row shall appear in a "editable" row 
> >> >> >> > >> below the
> >> >> >> > >> table where once the user makes and changes, these are 
> >> >> >> > >> reflected in
> >> >> >> > >> the main table
> >> >> >> > >>     - once the user navigates to another row, the edited row 
> >> >> >> > >> should
> >> >> >> > >> have some sort of marker displaying that it is dirty until the 
> >> >> >> > >> save
> >> >> >> > >> button is clicked ( this is allowing for batch processing)
> >> >> >> > >>    - thus when a user decides to sort/page this information 
> >> >> >> > >> would need
> >> >> >> > >> to be retained until the user saves.
> >> >> >> > >> 3) The user has a drop down above the table to filter by a 
> >> >> >> > >> couple of
> >> >> >> > >> the columns.
> >> >> >> > > So far not a problem with both of them.
>
> >> >> >> > >> I looked at ext-GWT and GWT-ext. Both seem are somewhat ok 
> >> >> >> > >> about this,
> >> >> >> > >> however with ext-GWT
> >> >> >> > >> - You can't paginate/sort on the client side if I'm not wrong 
> >> >> >> > >> and the
> >> >> >> > >> whole model seems to force you to do remote pagination which 
> >> >> >> > >> from what
> >> >> >> > >> I saw, would basically reset the data each time - so not a good 
> >> >> >> > >> option
> >> >> >> > > You can sort on the client side - it's per default that way if 
> >> >> >> > > you
> >> >> >> > > want to sort only the current page - in case you want to sort the
> >> >> >> > > whole data and then have a page Nr. N, you will have to 
> >> >> >> > > sort/page on
> >> >> >> > > the server. New grid supports editing directly in the cells(so 
> >> >> >> > > no page
> >> >> >> > > refresh necessary). But i haven't used it yet.
>
> >> >> >> > >> And with GWT-ext:
> >> >> >> > >> I tried implementing it however, ran into some memory overflow 
> >> >> >> > >> problem
> >> >> >> > >> when trying to compile it. Plus, there was a file 
> >> >> >> > >> PagingMemoryProxy
> >> >> >> > >> that was not available in the GWT-ext library but then I later 
> >> >> >> > >> found
> >> >> >> > >> it in the gwtux library. Not sure why it is like that.
> >> >> >> > > I do not use GWT-ext. The whole javascript-wrapper concept isn't 
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > best idea imho.
>
> >> >> >> > >> On the whole the problem with both ideas is that, I thought of 
> >> >> >> > >> them
> >> >> >> > >> more as widgets but turns out they almost completely take over 
> >> >> >> > >> your
> >> >> >> > >> code with a whole bunch of different things to do as opposed to
> >> >> >> > >> standard GWT code. So, that isn't really an attractive idea.
> >> >> >> > > Well, i found out that writting smth. as complex as Ext-GWT's 
> >> >> >> > > grid
> >> >> >> > > would take too much time and effort - can't really afford it in 
> >> >> >> > > my
> >> >> >> > > project. Using existing widgets bring some problems, mostly due 
> >> >> >> > > to the
> >> >> >> > > specific nature of your particular application, but they are 
> >> >> >> > > solvable
> >> >> >> > > and you need much less time for it.
>
> >> >> >> > >> Alex,
> >> >> >> > >> What were the problems you found with PagingScrollTable? Just 
> >> >> >> > >> curious
> >> >> >> > >> to know since I'm trying to get an idea of what I might need/ 
> >> >> >> > >> not
> >> >> >> > >> need.
> >> >> >> > > Bugs, bugs and one more time bugs. Imho you'll need far more time
> >> >> >> > > solving problems/fixing bugs with PagingScrollTable than doing 
> >> >> >> > > same
> >> >> >> > > thing with Ext-GWT's grid. But if you decide to write your own 
> >> >> >> > > grid,
> >> >> >> > > then using/rewriting/fixing PagingScrollTable might be a good
> >> >> >> > > approach.
>
> >> >> >> > >> Thanks
> >> >> >> > >>Suri
> >> >> >> > >> On Nov 3, 4:46 am, "alex.d" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > >> > PagingScrollTable isn't really smth. one can recommend. You 
> >> >> >> > >> > have more
> >> >> >> > >> > trouble with it then anything else. Both GWT-EXT and Ext GWT 
> >> >> >> > >> > have
> >> >> >> > >> > paging tables. It's worth to take a look.
>
> >> >> >> > >> > On 31 Okt., 18:03, "Isaac Truett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > >> > > Yes, I've used the original version in several places in 
> >> >> >> > >> > > one project
> >> >> >> > >> > > and I plan on using the gen2 incarnation in another 
> >> >> >> > >> > > project. I highly
> >> >> >> > >> > > recommend PagingScrollTable.
>
> >> >> >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:53 PM,Suri<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi Issac,
> >> >> >> > >> > > > I had looked at that initially but got discouraged by the 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > comments
> >> >> >> > >> > > > below on the page. Have you used it? Is
>
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>
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