Based on my experience with Google, I think Google executives may one day consider extending outside PHR.
Google always starts with personal account and then offers business / enterprise accounts. Of course Google has to justify the ROI and market share for such expansion in Google Health in the PHR direction. Google has won the LA city contract on Google enterprise account. They are working on implementing the Google enterprise with LA Police department. I would imagine LA city hospitals and city-supported or state-supported health clinics may one day want to use Google Health. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Nathan <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, you are certainly correct, currently Google Health is a PHR, not > an EHR of some sort. Although one can manage a group of users through > their own application that is consuming the Google Health api so it is > a bit relative in that regard. These are obviously special cases being > discussed. > > On Jul 28, 5:18 pm, Bess Ho <[email protected]> wrote: > > Use case in Google Health API is for consumer individual and family. > Google > > Health is not designed for group use. May be Google Health needs to > consider > > enterprise business product for large group. However many are considering > > using Google Health b/c currently the consumer product is free, just like > > Gmail account. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Nathan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Larry, > > > > > It sounds like you are seeking to use Google Health directly versus > > > consuming the api in some manner. Through our application we create > > > and manage "groups" of users or clinics within our own database. > > > Specific user accounts are integrated with Google Health with their > > > specific token. So while there is no particular grouping through > > > Google Health in relation to our users they are still grouped and > > > accessed according to clinic designations in our application. > > > > > This is very different than a particular user adding another profile > > > to their account (ie. mother and her kids) although people can do that > > > through our application as well. > > > > > All of that doesn't alleviate us from the need of bulk Google Health > > > accounts that we can attach to our users and in that respect is > > > similar to your problem. It does seem however that part of your > > > problem can be achieved through applications that use the Google > > > Health api while at the same time manage their own user database. > > > > > -Nathan > > > > > On Jul 23, 7:08 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > Nathan, > > > > > > Thanks for the information. The GH model doesn't fit our needs very > > > > well without a group structure. Rightfully, the GH model is user > > > > centric vs. group centric. While the ability to add a profile for > > > > someone else under a single ID addresses the issue, it would be > > > > unwieldy for large groups like ours (200K). I'm sure there is a > limit > > > > as to how many profiles you can add under one ID but I couldn't find > a > > > > limit documented. In addition, organizing around individual IDs > would > > > > allow us to transfer ones "medical records" to them when they leave > > > > our group. > > > > > > Hopefully, GH is considering our perspectives. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > On Jul 22, 9:21 am, Nathan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Larry and Paul, > > > > > > > We are dealing with a bit of the same issue and have worked on a > > > > > couple different strategies. Our project is public health related > to > > > > > the extent that we are engaging users through kiosk stations at > > > > > community clinics and are acting as promotoras/concierges for > people > > > > > in order to connect our service to a Google Health account in order > to > > > > > increase patient engagement in their health management. > > > > > > > We have implemented the walk-through information and education > pieces > > > > > necessary to walk a user through the handshakes required to > complete > > > > > the process, but this still can be a bit exhaustive for the less > tech- > > > > > savvy (often less literate as well) user and/or someone working > from a > > > > > kiosk at the clinic. > > > > > > > It would be great to have a way to have some bulk accounts > available > > > > > for easy sign-up that we could use so that promotoras didn't have > to > > > > > work through the whole process for each person. This would all > assume > > > > > of course that the enrollee had access to and signed the necessary > > > > > Terms and Consents and were explicitly made aware that they were > going > > > > > to be using Google Health to store their health records. We want to > > > > > make sure that people are properly informed especially in regards > to > > > > > understanding issues of HIPAA, etc..., the thing is that for less > tech- > > > > > savvy users the current method only seems to cause more confusion. > > > > > > > I tried contacting Google to see about getting a set of Google App > > > > > accounts, but since we are not a non-profit then I was told by > agents > > > > > that we would have to pay the regular rate per user ($50) which > > > > > wouldn't be feasible for what we are trying to accomplish. Tried to > > > > > get further help in this regard but couldn't seem to get further > > > > > communication on this matter. > > > > > > > At any rate, it would be great to do some collective thinking on > ways > > > > > to properly work through this issue and make it viable for public > > > > > health projects. Please let me know if there is continued > conversation > > > > > in this regard. > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Nathan > > > > > > > On Jul 20, 6:53 am, "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Paul, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. I was beginning to think that GH was a > 20%er. > > > > > > > > In this particular case it is not possible to direct each > individual > > > > > > to sign up. This is a special case population that does not have > and > > > > > > is not allowed access to the Internet. There are about 200,000 > > > people > > > > > > in this group. > > > > > > > > If you would like to take this discussion private I can give you > a > > > > > > little more detail. I'm still very interested in pursuing the > notion > > > > > > of public health groups using GH. Please advise. > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 3:26 pm, "Paul (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Larry, > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the question, and welcome to the group! > > > > > > > > > Users of Google services, including Health, are required to > agree > > > to > > > > > > > Google's Terms of Service before their account is created. > > > Therefore, > > > > > > > we presently don't offer automatic account creation services > for > > > > > > > Health. Would it be possible for you to direct a user to the > > > account > > > > > > > creation and Health linkage instructions prior to leaving your > > > system? > > > > > > > > > Paul (Google) > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2:00 pm, "[email protected]" < > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We're considering implementing Google Health for a public > health > > > > > > > > group. We'd like to be able to create a Google Health > account > > > for > > > > > > > > each member, existing and new. When a new person enters the > > > system > > > > > > > > we'd like to create a new Google Health account and when the > > > leave the > > > > > > > > system we'd turn the account over to the owner. > > > > > > > > > > The process for creating new account is simple enough as is > the > > > turn > > > > > > > > over upon exiting the system. The problem I'm facing is the > > > > > > > > conversion of several thousand existing members to Google > Health. > > > I > > > > > > > > see no way in any of the APIs to automatically create a > Google > > > > > > > > (Health) Account, say from an existing list of members. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to create a Google > Health > > > > > > > > Account for each of an existing large group of members? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "Google Health Developers" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<googlehealthdevelopers%[email protected]> > <googlehealthdevelopers%[email protected]<googlehealthdevelopers%[email protected]> > > > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/googlehealthdevelopers?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Bess Ho > > UI Architect / Developer / Designer > > iPhone Developer > > Silicon Valley Web Builder (SVWB) Founder > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > > which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. 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