On 2013-01-22, at 1:33 AM, Gervase Markham <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Is this a straight either/or? Surely it's a "social pressure OR social
> pressure and licensing"?

indeed

> I think there are good examples, even in our space, of licensing working
> as a tool to encourage useful code publication. WebKit Core is LGPL, and
> Apple publishes its modifications to it on release in 2003. Other bits
> are BSD, and were only open-sourced when Apple decided it wanted to,
> which was in mid-2005.

Good data.

> 
>> - history (e.g. DVCS'es, github) has
>> shown (IMO) that encouraging forking ends up resulting in more code
>> being published than focusing on merging.
> 
> That may well be true; however, to make it support your point you would
> need to show that copyleft-licensed code is less forked than
> non-copyleft code.

No, I'm not arguing against copyleft -- I'm just arguing that IMO copyleft is 
less important now than it once was.

(The question you're asking is an interesting one, which presumably could be 
estimated, but I don't have the answer)

> Where on your list of criteria is "protect contributors against legal
> action"? If it's somewhere near the top, how much value do you place on
> the patent clauses in e.g. MPL and Apache?


My understanding of the relevant parts of the world is so fuzzy that I don't 
have much of a "position on the list".  In general, legal risk is something 
that I'd like to weigh relative to likelihood of a suit, etc., which I wouldn't 
want to do without legal advice and a specific context.  I expect our answer 
might be different for e.g. FirefoxOS vs. some internal tool.

--da
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