Hi all,


Bernie's question (8:55 a.m. in the thread below) -- "Medicaid is sometimes 
capitated and sometime not. Is this information available from the Capricorn 
sites." -- may be divided into two questions:



      1) What level of granularity and accuracy is available in the payor 
(and/or "financial class") fields in each CAPriCORN institution's source 
database (EHR or related repository)?



      2) What level of granularity might each institution be willing to provide 
for our city-wide mapping project?



In my experience, even the most granular values stored by an institution in its 
EHR/repository are not always clear-cut as to whether the patient's Medicaid 
coverage was capitated or not.



Some records are clear-cut:  e.g., "ILLINICARE HEALTH PLAN MEDICAID MCO" is 
Medicaid managed care.



Some records are clear-cut as long as one knows the local environment well:  
e.g., "NEXTLEVEL HEALTH MCO" is Medicaid managed care even though it does not 
say the word "Medicaid."



But some records have insurance labels that are vague (intentionally or 
unintentionally) as to capitation: e.g., "MEDICAID IL - STATUS PENDING."  Also, 
values are sometimes truncated, etc.



Also some Medicaid records, in my view, should be placed into a third category 
(an "other" category): e.g., "MEDICAID SPENDDOWN."





Some health care institutions have financial/reimbursement offices and systems 
that may have more detailed information than the EHR/repository does about the 
insurance status for each encounter, but those separate systems (if not already 
being used in the ETL processes) would require substantial work (and local 
approvals) to access.



thank you,

marc





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From: Kho, Abel <abel....@nm.org>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:25 PM
To: Bernard Black; Dan Connolly; gpc-dev@listserv.kumc.edu
Cc: Sparapani, Rodney; Marc Brian Rosenman; Laura Jarmila Rasmussen-Torvik; 
Theresa L. Walunas
Subject: Re: Medicaid types


I'm going to pull in Theresa who works most closely with Medicaid office in our 
group.


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From: Bernard Black <bbl...@kellogg.northwestern.edu>
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Cc: Sparapani, Rodney; Rosenman, Marc (NU); Rasmussen-Torvik, Laura (NU)
Subject: RE: Medicaid types

Abel and Marc:  March may be able to tell us for Northwestern, but what do we 
know about Medicaid in Illinois?
In some states, Medicaid is all/essentially all capitated, in some it is mostly 
fee for service, in some states, there is more variance.
What is known about Illinois Medicaid?


Bernie

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From: Kho, Abel [mailto:abel....@nm.org]
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To: Bernard Black <bbl...@kellogg.northwestern.edu>; Dan Connolly 
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Subject: Re: Medicaid types


I don't know the answer to this but I suspect Marc may be able to know this 
based on the work he is doing now to get a handle on the diversity of insurance 
types.

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From: Bernard Black 
<bbl...@kellogg.northwestern.edu<mailto:bbl...@kellogg.northwestern.edu>>
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Cc: Sparapani, Rodney; Rosenman, Marc (NU); Kho, Abel
Subject: Medicaid types

Medicaid is sometimes capitated and sometime not.
Is this information available from the GPC sites?  It would be useful to have 
this, if knowable.
Abel:  Same question for the Capricorn sites.

Capitated plans can be called "managed care", or "health maintenance 
organization (HMO)" and perhaps other names.

Thank you,
Bernie
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