Ahh, that rules out my second point as a factor, participation was indeed notably lower.
> On 30 Oct 2024, at 11:18, Hernán De Angelis via grass-psc > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Nicklas, > > Thanks for your e-mail. > > You are correct that the nature of the 2020 was different than this one and > that might have prompted more participation. > > Those numbers that you ask can be retrieved from the records still in > LimeSurvey: > > - 245 registered voters (we had problems with duplicated names and emails, so > this number is not exact) > - 98 voters left complete respones (10 out of 10) > - 30 voted at the start with no need to be reminded > - 51 voted after first reminder > - 7 voted after 2nd reminder > - 10 voted after 3rd reminder > - 78 voters either did not vote or left incomplete responses, resulting in 15 > definite votes > > > As far as I understand, it is the OSGeo position that LimeSurvey is going to > be used long term. I have no problems with this. Perhaps what is needed is if > OSGeo could help with a good introduction to LimeSurvey by some knowledgeable > expert. > > > Hernán > > > Den 2024-10-30 kl. 11:03, skrev Nicklas Larsson via grass-psc: >> Hernán, >> >> I think you did an excellent job, thank you! >> >> There are some differences between this election and the 2020 election, that >> might have played a role in the seemingly low participation. Firstly, at the >> 2020 election the whole board was put out on nomination, with a wide range >> of long-time familiar persons in the Community as nominees, whereas now >> “only” empty seats were to be refilled (with perhaps partly less familiar >> nominees for the wider Community). This could in part explain some of the >> incomplete votes. >> Secondly, I can’t remember, and the records [1] don't tell, if there were >> any partial or incomplete votes in 2020. But if we add the complete with the >> partial votes of this election we come up with 82 voters, which is much >> closer to the 98 voter participation in 2020. This indicates at least >> similar level of intent to vote. >> >> For next time, maybe the use of LimeSurvey should be revised, at least >> tested. >> >> Cheers, >> Nicklas >> >> >> [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/PSC/Election2020 >> >> >>> On 28 Oct 2024, at 20:59, Chief Return Officer (CRO) - GRASS GIS election >>> 2024 via grass-psc <[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Michael, >>> >>> I do not understand that part either. Several other elections in LimeSurvey >>> seem to have that "feature", with comparatively many incomplete responses. >>> I had explicitly blocked partial responses: voters had to choose 4 >>> candidates. Yet it happened. I have no explanation for how. May be it has >>> to do with the system itself. >>> >>> But it would be a mistake for us to focus on this aspect of the issue, when >>> the real problem seems to me why so few people felt compelled to vote. >>> Somehow the engagement wasn't there as it was in 2020 (my impression). >>> >>> I sent two reminders in total via LimeSurvey: one on Thursday and another >>> on Sunday. Only 27 people voted between the opening first reminder on >>> Thursday. Between then and Sunday, when I sent the second reminder, only 21 >>> more had voted. After the second reminder and until the closing only 11 >>> more voted. On Friday I also sent a message through the lists. Yet few >>> actively voted. Why? I do not know. I insisted enough I believe. Then there >>> is also a limit on how many reminders you can push via email before wearing >>> people's patience out. >>> >>> Hernán >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Den 2024-10-28 kl. 18:06, skrev Michael Barton: >>>> While this is a low number, it is better than it seemed from the vote >>>> totals at 40%. Of the remaining 60%, I don't quite understand how 23 >>>> incomplete ballots resulted in 3 votes but perhaps I misunderstood your >>>> point. >>>> Michael >>>> _____________________________ >>>> C. Michael Barton >>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems (https:// >>>> scas.asu.edu <http://scas.asu.edu/> <https://scas.asu.edu/>) >>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change (https:// >>>> shesc.asu.edu <http://shesc.asu.edu/> <https://shesc.asu.edu >>>> <https://shesc.asu.edu/>>) >>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity (https:// >>>> complexity.asu.edu <http://complexity.asu.edu/> >>>> <https://complexity.asu.edu <https://complexity.asu.edu/>>) >>>> Arizona State University >>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701 >>>> USA >>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation (https:// >>>> openmodelingfoundation.github.io >>>> <http://openmodelingfoundation.github.io/> <https:// >>>> openmodelingfoundation.github.io/ >>>> <http://openmodelingfoundation.github.io/>>) >>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological >>>> Sciences (https://comses.net <https://comses.net/> <https://comses.net >>>> <https://comses.net/>>) >>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton <http:// >>>> www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton <http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton>> >>>>> On Oct 28, 2024, at 7:35 AM, Chief Return Officer (CRO) - GRASS GIS >>>>> election 2024 <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> See the summary in the elction Wiki. I see no anomaly, but I share the >>>>> impression that the participation was lower this time than in 2020. >>>>> >>>>> * name and e-mail address for 153 eligible voters were loaded >>>>> * 5 e-mail addresses were invalid >>>>> * 2 voters explicitly declined to participate >>>>> * 59 registered voters submitted complete responses (i.e. chose 4 >>>>> candidates out of 10) >>>>> * 87 registered voters either did not participate or submitted empty >>>>> or partial responses >>>>> o of these, 23 partial or incomplete votes were registered, >>>>> resulting in 3 definite votes for 3 different candidates >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/PSC_Election_2024#Details >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Den 2024-10-28 kl. 15:29, skrev Michael Barton: >>>>>> Thanks for all your work in managing the PSC election Hernán. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you tell me how many total people were eligible to vote and how many >>>>>> of them voted? The totals published seem like a very small number. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael Barton >>>>>> School of Human Evolution &Social Change >>>>>> School of Complex Adaptive System Science >>>>>> Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity >>>>>> Arizona State University >>>>>> >>>>>> ...Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Hernán De Angelis >>>>> >>>>> Chief Return Officer (CRO) >>>>> GRASS GIS election 2024 >>> >>> -- >>> Hernán De Angelis >>> >>> Chief Return Officer (CRO) >>> GRASS GIS election 2024 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grass-psc mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grass-psc mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc > > _______________________________________________ > grass-psc mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
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