I agree. The remote control panel needs a lot of work. I hadn't
thought about collapsing sections yet, good idea.

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David Rutten
[email protected]
Robert McNeel & Associates


On Jan 17, 5:08 pm, Chris Wilkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> To take the wishing a step further, I'd wish that the remote control
> panel was quite customizable so that more novice users (say in an
> office environment) don't really have to look at the definition, but
> can just operate the definition from the remote panel completely. Say
> I make a solution for modelling stair railings, and the other users in
> the office don't have to be grasshopper users really, but can open up
> this file and reuse it. Of course they can do that right now, but if
> the person making the definition file could have control over how the
> remote panel is laid out, then the novice could be insulated from
> definition files. (like how Microsoft Access has forms that can be
> build to insulate novice users from the having to access data tables
> directly, potentially fowling the data)
>
> #3. Maybe collapsible slider groups (like layers panel in Rhino),
> would be an easy way to clean up (like when you have 30 sliders or
> something). Or maybe more like a form with a grid layout (default grid
> placement could be stacked as the current panel is?).
>
> #4. It would be great to be able to show parameters in the remote
> panel (!!!). Say you have a definition where you constantly set new
> curves for a curve parameter. That would be nice to be able to place
> that parameter in control panel (also for novice insulation purposes).
>
> -Chris
>
> On Jan 17, 10:28 am, frankS <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > a tiny contribution to silder related wishes:
> > have a multiplier included to the sliders settings.
>
> > example of use:
> > if i want to control a diameter of a circle by a slider, i divide the
> > sliders output by 2 (or multiply by 0.5) in order to hand the radius
> > over to the circle component.
>
> > what do you think? does it make things more complicated or helps
> > reducing the number of components?
>
> > frank
>
> > On Jan 17, 4:00 pm, visose <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Damn this is tricky. I think the value should stick to 10 because when
> > > the min value of the domain is changed to 10, you are implicitly
> > > deciding that the value you want in that moment is at least 10 and not
> > > 2.5. It doesen't matter if you are forced to set the min value as 10,
> > > because if not the definition breaks. Not wanting to break the
> > > definition is a decision you took so the last value you really wanted
> > > was 10 and not 2.5. It doesen't matter whether you decided it when
> > > designing the definition or moving the slider.
>
> > > On Jan 17, 2:51 pm, David Rutten <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Ok, that makes sense. Let's make the situation a bit more complicated
> > > > still:
>
> > > > 1) as before, you have a slider that's defined by {0.0; 10.0; 2.5}
> > > > (min, max, value)
> > > > 2) the slider domain is changed and the value is adjusted, so now we
> > > > have {10.0; 50.0; 10.0}
> > > > 3) now the domain is shifted again, and this time it becomes {-20.0;
> > > > +20.0; ?}
>
> > > > should the value stick to 10.0 or revert to 2.5? 2.5 is the value you
> > > > last specified, so in my mind that means you 'prefer' that value to
> > > > 10.0, which was merely a result of limits.
>
> > > > --
> > > > David Rutten
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > Robert McNeel & Associates
>
> > > > On Jan 17, 12:13 pm, visose <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > IMO, if you change the domain the slider value should remain the same
> > > > > as much as possible. If you want the value to scale proportionally,
> > > > > you don't really care for the actual value so you shouldn't mind using
> > > > > a percentage slider (0-1) or (0-100).
>
> > > > > On Jan 17, 10:40 am, David Rutten <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Those wishes are indeed already on the list. And actually, I'd 
> > > > > > prefer
> > > > > > people wishing for the same things, since it tells me which wishes 
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > most pertinent.
>
> > > > > > I do have a question about flexible slider domains:
>
> > > > > > Imagine you have a slider that goes from 0.0 to 10.0 and the value 
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > set at 2.5. Now, due to an external cause, the slider domain is
> > > > > > changed to go from 10.0 to 50.0, what happens to the value? Does it
> > > > > > remain the same as much as possible (i.e. 10.0 in this case) or is 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > scaled along with the domain (i.e. 20.0 in this case)?
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > David Rutten
> > > > > > Robert McNeel & Associates
>
> > > > > > On Jan 16, 7:50 pm, Chris Wilkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > It seems many wish list items are popping up lately, so here's 
> > > > > > > two:
>
> > > > > > > 1. It would be useful if sliders had inputs for the upper and 
> > > > > > > lower
> > > > > > > values. So that if conditions changed that affected the range of
> > > > > > > values that you need in your slider, those limits could be changed
> > > > > > > dynamically.
>
> > > > > > > 2. Ability to reorder the sliders on the remote control panel in
> > > > > > > Rhino. (and save this in the definition file)
>
> > > > > > > If these exist already, and/or if there is an existing wish list
> > > > > > > posted somewhere, let me know. I'd hate to wish for wishes already
> > > > > > > wished.
>
> > > > > > > -Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
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