The British broadsheet newspaper The Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk is 
currently testing a replacement for its current online readers' comment system. 
A bunch of problems with it. Firstly the replacement fundamentally changes the 
style of presentation. At the moment it gives a purely chronological display of 
messages. The new version is trying to give threaded comments; like Disqus, 
which is what other British broadsheets use, but worse. If you know Disqus 
style threaded commenting them you know how bad that "worse" actually is. They 
appear to have deliberately ignored a large group of users during requirements 
elicitation, namely their existing user bade!

Secondly the interactivity is "pants". There are basic design flaws that make 
the threaded stuff difficult to use. Real stupid errors are being encounted in 
use; it beggars belief that this replacement system ever went through unit 
testing, alpha- or beta-testing in house. Thirdly the dynamic display of 
comments doesn't always work. It also affects scrolling (keyboard and mouse) 
within the comment section.

The heart of their replacement system seems to be a single JavaScript script 
embedded in the page that fiddles with the page's DOM to displays the 
messages/comments in their half-arsed format. Wondering if a GM script coud 
unravel much of the junk and return local display to a chronological form. 
Unlike the other papers there is no real-time update of messages/comments so 
any GM script only needs to run when the associated page(s) are loaded or 
manually refreshed.

Would the complexity of writing such a defeat-threading GM script be too great 
to make the script's use on the site feasible and practical? Anyone got a 
feeling for whether such a script would be achievable? Primarily I'm only 
concerned with creating a script for my own personal use rather than making 
anything generally available. My own alpha-test code would be acceptable to me 
even in production mode. Mind you nothing could ever be as bad as the junk the 
paper are rolling out and forcing reader/commenters to use in the very near 
future. a roll out that continues despite serious critical technical comments 
from its online reader community.

Regards, Trevor.

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