One's support for the freedom of expression with regards to a particular
incident in question would be based on his/her perception on the intention
and mode of expression in question. If I know for a fact that a particular
expression and its mode have their merits, I will wholeheartedly support it.


However, I think I support freedom of expression as an idea for fear that
its limitation would cause more damage to the marginalised / oppressed
voices, or their supporters.

Blasphemy laws are misused in many countries, to serve the interests of the
ruling / majority. In
pakistan<http://www.rationalistinternational.net/Shaikh/blasphemy_laws_in_pakistan.htm>,
blasphemous actions as described in the law are punishable by death;
Qadiyanis / Ahmadi sectors cannot even claim themselves to be muslims under
the blasphemy law. In england, blasphemy law only protects the
church<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3753408.stm>(Britain is to
abolish this law in this month). In many western  countries
anti semitic laws can put you in jail. While in some cases the law itself is
enough to suppress the minorities, in other cases laws are used against
minority or critics by alleging blasphemy.

While we can rationally argue that blasphemy is not insulting God(s) /
deities but believers, religions do not seem to share that view.
Christianity and Judaism see blasphemy as contempt of God, and suggests
severe punishments. Examples from Puranas and Laws in Manusmriti also
suggests Blasphemy be seriously dealt with. Islamists often term blasphemers
as apostates and apply the Sharia law for apostacy on them. What I am saying
is that the concept of Blasphemy has its root in Religious rulings in almost
all major religions. Though the feelings of the believers are hurt, such
anguish are fired up by religious establishments citing the religious rules.


Questioning Religious establishments are also not tolerated. Ban on Sreeni
Pattathanam's book on Amritananda mayi and attempts to prosecute him, and
murder of Chekannur Maulavi were not results of outrages from believers,
but  from power and influences of establishments. But questioning and
abusing cannot be given same consideration. Some sort of scrutiny might be
required to expose the attempt. But, derogatory epithets such as
"*Your*religion sucks", and blatant, biased, and hypocritical
statements such as "
*Your* religion is disrespectful to other religions and gods" may not need
much of a scrutiny to identify the intent.

Although it is matters related to religions discussed with regards to
freedom of expression, they happen very seldom. But, states and other
powerful political organisations makes every attempts to contain voices
against them. Possessing a book, visiting a person or watching a channel can
all be alleged as intentions to perform crimes, let alone writing a book or
making a film. "Monitored" Intellectuals are questioned and harassed at
airports when they travel in the United states. In India, censor board kills
the messages even before they reach the people. Advocacy for freedom of
expression should be seen as advocacy for political discourse than freedom
for false cries.


Regards
Abdulkareem


On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A crucial element of what constitutes a crime is whats called *mens rea *or
> the intention and when it is translated into action *actus reas*
> The constitutional freedom of expression is expressly delimited by Art 19
> (2), Murali might do himself a favour reading up on those discourses before
> making comments off the cuff
>
>
> On 02/07/2008, Murali K Warier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 'Inflammatory discourse (as giving offense)' too should be covered under
>> freedom of speech. Isn't it easy enough to distinguish between offensive
>> speech and incitement to violence? The former is ok, the latter, not, of
>> course. Saying 'your religion sucks' is ok, but saying 'go out and kill <put
>> your favorite religionists here>' is not ok.
>>
>> It is ok to hate religions and religionists too, as long as your hate is
>> not transformed into actions that jeopardize other peoples' rights. It is
>> perfectly legit to hate Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Brahmins, Communists,
>> Neo-liberals, Dalits, Nairs ..... (I am sure everybody here agrees with a
>> partial list of the above) as long as these peoples' constitutional rights
>> are not violated.
>>
>> Only Communist states could penalize thought crimes.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Murali
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:45 AM, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't
>> want to hear.
>>
>> >>
>>

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