I posted the particular item on New Media presupposing that every one will understand the properties and characteristics of analog and digital communication (not convergence). You may have also studied the different communication models. Its very difficult to elaborate on both. Net of course is reliable resource for the same.
On all other deeply insightful and enlightening points , I may not be able to say anything. Pls. forgive. Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:43 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > media exists as part of a cultural realm > the changes brought forth cant be attributed alone to media as technology. > then u r ignoring the context in which such a change took shape.. (close to > marxsm) > > while discussing media in the neoliberal era, one cant ignore the cultural > connotations of convergence. Print as a medium never exists in isolation > now. U buy a TV set to listen to radio as well... with mobile technology all > media forms are converged into a handset. print is no more limited to print > alone. and web cant exist without print. > > depending exclusively on the positivsm of ICT for social revolutions would > benefit a person who would like toapply for some govt. project only > > but still i dont know the difference btn analog, digital and convergence > minds.. only damodar can shed some light. Marx wont born again to answer all > questions. We have to find our own answers.. and that need not always be as > old as marx. > > > > > > > On 8/24/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Dear Neelan, >> >> I don't think people expressed views in this thread are stupid enough to >> believe that the new media is the solution for our communication problem.. >> If you look at it, it is also hegemonic and there are a lot of attempts >> there to control the web... But there are still a lot of possibilities to >> resist such attempts and keep it some what democratic.. >> >> Whether such a media will help us to regain freedom and memory is another >> question for social scientists and I will be stupidly arrogant if I try to >> answer... Any way I am not that cynical about history... If we are ready to >> abandon the notion of history as a "progressive march" through time and our >> "absolute knowledge" and optimism about human destiny, I don't think there >> are too many reasons to be that cynical... >> >> Regards >> Afthab Ellath >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 8:34 AM, neelan neelakandan < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear Afthab, >>> Have we regained memory in the new space and medium????...is not the lose >>> of memory and hence the lose of the sense of history , following us?Just >>> questions out of curiosity. >>> Neelan >>> --- On Sat, 23/8/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> > From: Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: New Media discussion >>> > To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com >>> >>> > Date: Saturday, 23 August, 2008, 10:35 PM >>> > Still memoryless cyberspace is possible with moderators can >>> > cut and >>> > stitch pieces to make designer wears... >>> > >>> > On 8/23/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > The interactive cababilities of this new media in >>> > space-time axis, also >>> > > enables those rare intellectuals to be present and be >>> > part of >>> > > those dynamic events of history creating new space and >>> > time, in realtime, >>> > > whether one in Singapore or in U.S... This is >>> > happening while many others >>> > > are stuck in the past even while they are physically >>> > proximate to these >>> > > events... >>> > > >>> > > The tragedy of the third category is even >>> > disastrous... They are in >>> > > multiple spaces and times or left with no space and >>> > time .. They will give >>> > > you an impression that they are moving with people, >>> > but next instance they >>> > > are back with their oppressors and balance >>> > themselves... There meomory fades >>> > > not in years, but in weeks, if not in days... >>> > > >>> > > But this balancing is not easy with this media, when >>> > everyone is >>> > > continously exposed, when reflections are destabilized >>> > by reflexes, when >>> > > past are present are stitched together, both readers >>> > and writers are >>> > > questioned, or when readers becomes writers and vice >>> > versa... In a media >>> > > where mardock and lottery kings will not dictate >>> > terms... >>> > > >>> > > Regards >>> > > Afthab >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On 8/21/08, damodar prasad >>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> 1. The New Media, I doubt, is still understood in >>> > Print terminology and >>> > >> with a Textist mind. The Analog and Linear Mind >>> > fails to recogonize the >>> > >> dynamics of digital ontology. >>> > >> >>> > >> 2. It is meanignless to impose a Print template >>> > over the interactive and >>> > >> de-territorial space of new media. >>> > >> >>> > >> 3. The first thing to understood that it is rather >>> > difficult to govern ths >>> > >> space unless applying some crude tactics which >>> > only enables further >>> > >> innovation. >>> > >> >>> > >> 4. I doubt many people come to e-forums with a >>> > print & lienar mind even >>> > >> as they pose to be extreme contemporaries. >>> > >> >>> > >> 5. The broadcast, digital media, is a memory-less >>> > medium not bcoz it has >>> > >> no storage capacity but it is ruled by the >>> > 'momentariness'. >>> > >> >>> > >> 6. The discussion takes place at so many spaces >>> > accessible globally and >>> > >> now even in the unglobal above-horizon spaces >>> > making new media generative >>> > >> through time and space. >>> > >> >>> > >> 7. The impulsvity is the propelling dynamics of >>> > new media. The print and >>> > >> boradcast, though momentary, allows time-lapses >>> > for the participant ( both >>> > >> producers as well as receivers) indulgences. But >>> > the spontaniety in >>> > >> conversation and dialoging makes the new medium >>> > exciting. But time lapses >>> > >> are also allowed. One can take time and think and >>> > access the same content to >>> > >> further generate discussion. >>> > >> >>> > >> 8. Transfomartivess and generativeness is the >>> > nature of new media >>> > >> discussion. With a kernel subject line you >>> > transform the semantics of >>> > >> discussion and genearte innumerable meanings. >>> > >> >>> > >> 9. e-discussion does not believe in any >>> > constructed hierarachy though the >>> > >> "hierarchized mind" demands that kind of >>> > respect and reverence similar to >>> > >> that of analog mind . >>> > >> >>> > >> 9. The new media discussion captures the fleeting >>> > moments and documents it >>> > >> for posterity as and when it occurs and making >>> > accessible the document to >>> > >> audiences elsewhere as it is enabled. >>> > >> >>> > >> 10. But the beautiful part ( dangerous as well) >>> > is that one is not only >>> > >> expsoing one self to one's own time but to the >>> > future as well. 75 years >>> > >> after ( or count less, 25 years) some one >>> > researching on some subject, say >>> > >> Subaltern upsurge and social change will find the >>> > documentation of the >>> > >> fleeting moments a great exposure to the times >>> > than any printed lenghty >>> > >> footnoted documents and account for who said... >>> > what?. Say for example, a >>> > >> strong of words like "the homogenous us and >>> > here" will be read as what... ? >>> > >> The star of a period will be the comical of those >>> > times. Print was/is cozy; >>> > >> New Media is too uncomfortable in this respect.* * >>> > >> ** >>> > >> 11. We should welcome any interferences/ >>> > indulgences/ interactions/ >>> > >> intiations from anyone or organization to make the >>> > Present enriching for the >>> > >> Future. >>> > >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> >>> > > Regards >>> > > >>> > > Afthab Ellath >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Regards >>> > >>> > Afthab Ellath >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger >>> at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
