On 6/20/14, 10:12 AM, mirko busato wrote:
Thank you,

I understood,  you are right, in the .rtp file  there are not neutral form for
the termini.

What can I do to have a neutral arginine, to have at least a total charge of 0?

Because In my case I am forced to choose ARG protonated else I get the error.

Fatal error
"In the chosen force field there is no residue type for 'ARGN' as an ending
  terminus"


Use a force field that has parameters for a neutral form. I'm sure someone has produced parameters for such a species, but they're not included in Amber99SB by default. If parameters are out there, add them (http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Adding_a_Residue_to_a_Force_Field), otherwise use a different force field.

-Justin

Thank you very much,

Mirko
On Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:17 PM, Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:




On 6/19/14, 8:59 AM, mirko busato wrote:
 > Thank you very much for your quick reply,
 >
 > My peptide is only composed of amino acids, and it has a total charge of 0.
 > My termini are NH2 and COOH (so the termini are not  ionized). My force 
field is
 > amber99sb.
 > I tried to change  for all atoms of my first residue (ASN) the ASN residue 
with
 >  the  NASN residue name. In the first residue (ASN) there are the 3 atoms of 
N
 > terminal . In the same way for ARG (the last residue ) with CARG.
 >

Look at the force field .rtp file - you will see that the Amber termini are
predefined and they are always charged.  That is an unfortunate limitation to
the current implementation.  I suspect someone must have produced neutral forms
of the termini, but you'll have to add them yourself if you want to do such a
simulation with this force field.

 > With -inter option  in the pdb2gmx command,
 > If I select Not protonated ARG (charge 0) and the other residues with charge 
0,
 > at the end the command says:
 > Fatal error
 > "In the chosen force field there is no residue type for 'ARGN' as an ending
 > terminus"
 >

This option chooses the side chain protonation state, not the terminus.

 > if I select protonated ARG (charge 1) and the other residues  with charge 0, 
I
 > obtain charge 1 (it is obvious) but my NH2  termini  is changed to NH3 and my
 > COOH in COO. (The command works but in my case the result is wrong because 
the
 > total charge has to be 0 with NH2 and COOH termini, not ionized).
 >
 > I don't understand if in my case I have to change ASN to NASN only for the 3
 > atoms in N terminal( N,H,H) and to change ARG to CARG only for the 4 atoms 
in C
 > terminal ( C,O2,O1,H)
 >
 > or change for all atoms of the first residue (ASN), ASN with NASN, and change
 > all atoms of the last residue (ARG) , ARG with CARG.( that I done and 
described
 > before)..
 >  If this is the right way, I don't know how to obtain the right result for my
 > peptide.
 >

As stated above, you'll have to modify the force field to add appropriate
parameters or otherwise use a different force field that actually allows you to
choose terminus protonation state.


-Justin

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Ruth L. Kirschstein NRSA Postdoctoral Fellow

Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
School of Pharmacy
Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
University of Maryland, Baltimore
20 Penn St.
Baltimore, MD 21201

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