On 12/27/15 3:56 PM, Man Hoang Viet wrote:
Hi,

Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:24:41 -0500
From: Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu>
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Update Amber force fields, ff12SB abd ff14SB
        gromacs implementation testing
Message-ID: <567dec59.3040...@vt.edu>
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On 12/24/15 5:04 AM, Man Hoang Viet wrote:
Dear GROMACS users,

I have completed the test for the Amber force fields, ff12SB and ff14SB,
implementation into GROMACS.
The test report is updated at:
http://www.gromacs.org/@api/deki/files/252/=ffA2G_test.pdf

and the test data set updated at:
http://www.gromacs.org/@api/deki/files/253/=FF12SB_FF14SB_GROMACS_TEST.tar.bz2


The dihedral error is rather large, and specific to the protein
parameters. This
suggests there is something being calculated somewhat differently.  Can
you use
simple single-point energies to identify the source of this problem?
Errors in
dihedrals can impact sampling quite a bit.

-Justin

I have just done test for amber99 force field and the result is similar to
other amber force fields (see in below link).
http://www.gromacs.org/@api/deki/files/254/=ffA2G_test.pdf
The table 3 shows the dihedral energy differences of small residues such
as GLY and ALA are significant larger than other ones. I think the smaller
residues the more sampling in the give simulation time (1ns), therefore
the dihedral phase space of the small amino acids are broader than bigger
ones.
Maybe, the sampling conformations is the main reason making my test result
on dihedral energy is a bit different with the one fro Prof. Eric J.
Sorin. (with the same force field amber99).
http://ffamber.cnsm.csulb.edu/ffamber.php
I will try to find out the sources that cause dihedral energy differences
between AMBER and GROAMCS in my test.


The energy of the same configuration in both AMBER and GROMACS should be the same if the force field implementation is equivalent. You don't need to run simulations, extract conformations, etc. to get this. Take one coordinate file, calculate its energy in each program, and report the result. The Sorin group did a slightly more complex version of this, by testing several different coordinate perturbations (the reason for which is explained on their website), but the for the purpose of troubleshooting, a single configuration should do initially. It's really quite straightforward. If the same coordinates produce different energies, there is a fundamental problem in the force field implementation. If the problem is shared among Gly and other amino acids, this implies a backbone problem, which is very troubling, but the fact that you can't reproduce the ff99 result means you're likely doing something incorrectly in your assessment. Be sure you're doing single-point energy calculations correctly using mdrun -rerun.

-Justin

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