On 11/1/16 9:02 AM, gozde ergin wrote:
This is a generic simulation failure message, indicating that your system is 
blowing up.  This could be due to any number of reasons, but without more 
details it's pointless to guess.

If I do not include the Na ion in decoupling I do not have this warning.
If I do not decouple Na ion still I need to make the charge of this molecule 
zero otherwise system charge becomes +1.

Decoupling the Na+ ion will mean your resulting dG value includes the hydration 
free energy of Na+, which it doesn't sound like you're interested in.

My purpose is doing the same thing with SDS that you did with Methane. And as 
SDS has Na ion I thought I need also to decouple it.
Do you think I do not need to decouple the Na ion but only dodecyl sulfate?
Last question even if I do not decouple the Na ion I need to make it charge 
zero, right?


You can decouple atomic and molecular ions, there are just additional considerations like an interface potential to calculate. See, e.g. work by Benoit Roux.

-Justin

Thanks in advance.
On 01 Nov 2016, at 13:21, Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:



On 11/1/16 7:31 AM, gozde ergin wrote:
Hi Justin,

I would like to ask one question related to this tutorial. I do the same thing 
with using SDS (Sodium dodecyl sulfate) molecule.
As you know there is NA (Sodium) atom that not bonded to dodecyl sulphate part. 
However in order to estimate the free energy of SDS salvation in water I need 
to decouple the all SDS molecule. Since couple-moltype accept only one types of 
molecule, I hacked the topology and put all atoms I want to decouple in the 
same [moleculetype] :

[ moleculetype ]
; name  nrexcl
SDS          3

[ atoms ]
; nr    type    resnr   residu  atom    cgnr    charge  mass
    1         SL      1      SDS      S      1      0.000    32.0600   ; qtot  
1.330
    2        OSL      1      SDS    OS1      2      0.000    15.9994   ; qtot  
1.050
    3        O2L      1      SDS    OS2      3      0.000    15.9994   ; qtot  
0.400
    4        O2L      1      SDS    OS3      4      0.000    15.9994   ; qtot 
-0.250
    5        O2L      1      SDS    OS4      5      0.000    15.9994   ; qtot 
-0.900
     .
     .
   25       HAL2      1      SDS    H71     25      0.000     1.0080   ; qtot 
-1.090
   26       HAL2      1      SDS    H72     26      0.000     1.0080   ; qtot 
-1.000
   27       CTL2      1      SDS     C8     27      0.000    12.0110   ; qtot 
-1.180
    .
    .
   42       HAL3      1      SDS   H123     42      0.000     1.0080   ; qtot 
-1.000
   43        SOD      2      SDS    SOD     43      0.000    22.9898   ; qtot  
1.000
.

However I get this warning during the simulation :

WARNING: Listed nonbonded interaction between particles 25 and 43
at distance 2.303 which is larger than the table limit 2.200 nm.

Do you have any idea how could I get rid off this warning?


This is a generic simulation failure message, indicating that your system is 
blowing up.  This could be due to any number of reasons, but without more 
details it's pointless to guess.

Also does the hacked .top file seem correct?


Decoupling the Na+ ion will mean your resulting dG value includes the hydration 
free energy of Na+, which it doesn't sound like you're interested in.

-Justin

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