On 6/12/17 5:44 PM, Varvdekar Bhagyesh Rajendra wrote:
Dear Justin,

So if I am interpreting it correct, it is reasonable if sc-coul = no even when 
partial coulomb interpolation takes place during transition from couple-lambda0 
= none to couple-lambda1 = vdw-q , right?


Yes. But again I must emphasize that your approach to treating a peptide is going to fraught with problems. This is not an effective way to get a binding free energy.

-Justin

Thank you for the reply,

-
Bhagyesh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Lemkul" <jalem...@vt.edu>
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:18:30 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Doubt about Free Energy Calculations using g_bar

On 6/12/17 11:47 AM, Varvdekar Bhagyesh Rajendra wrote:
Dear Justin,

I have compiled the following free energy code for use in the g_bar program for 
finding Binding affinity of a Protein-ligand complex, with ligand being a 
peptide. I would appreciate if you could please verify it's correctness and 
perhaps suggest any valuable improvements, if deemed necessary.

I am not sure about the input in the parameters for: *sc-coul* and 
*couple-intramol* though.

Since couple-lambda0 = none and couple-lambda1 = vdw-q, I assume coulomb 
interpolation must be taking place, and sc-coul should be *yes*.


Not necessarily.  Scaling Coulombic interactions linearly is what is more
commonly done.

Also, as my ligand is a peptide, I presume couple-intramol should also be *yes*.


If you're dealing with a peptide, you shouldn't be doing an alchemical
transformation.  It will probably never converge.  PMF or MM/PBSA are much
better approaches for determining binding free energies for these types of 
systems.

-Justin


; Free energy control

free_energy              = yes
init_lambda_state        = 0
delta_lambda             = 0
calc_lambda_neighbors    = 1        ; only immediate neighboring windows
; Vectors of lambda specified here
; Each combination is an index that is retrieved from init_lambda_state for 
each simulation

; init_lambda_state        0    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    10 
  11   12   13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25   26 
  27   28   29   30   31   32   33   34   35   36   37   38   39   40
vdw_lambdas              = 0.00 0.05 0.10 0.15 0.20 0.25 0.30 0.35 0.40 0.45 
0.50 0.55 0.60 0.65 0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85 0.90 0.95 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 
1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
coul_lambdas             = 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.05 0.10 0.15 0.20 0.25 
0.30 0.35 0.40 0.45 0.50 0.55 0.60 0.65 0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85 0.90 0.95 1.00
; We are not transforming any bonded or restrained interactions
bonded_lambdas           = 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
restraint_lambdas        = 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
mass_lambdas             = 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
temperature_lambdas      = 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00

; Options for the decoupling
sc-alpha                 = 0.5
sc-coul                  = ??       ; As linear interpolation of Coulomb takes 
place, I suppose it should be *yes*
sc-power                 = 1.0
sc-sigma                 = 0.3
couple-moltype           = Protein_chain_B      ; name of moleculetype to 
decouple
couple-lambda0           = none     ; interactions are turned off in the 
beginning
couple-lambda1           = vdw-q    ; all interactions are on in the end
couple-intramol          = ??       ; since my ligand is a peptide, I suppose 
the intramol interactions should be *yes*
nstdhdl                  = 10


Thanking in anticipation,

Best Regards,

Bhagyesh


----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Lemkul" <jalem...@vt.edu>
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:01:26 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Doubt about Free Energy Calculations using g_bar

On 6/10/17 6:15 AM, Varvdekar Bhagyesh Rajendra wrote:
Dear Justin,

Just so we are on the same page, this means that if I don't touch the topology 
file and use the following mdp snippet, charges *are present* in the topology 
file for the ligand group and they are automatically set to zero while turning 
on vdW interactions (from 0 to 1) right ? Hence, there is no need to manually 
set charges to zero (The old style of doing the calculations), right?.


Yes.  You can easily confirm this using energygrps between your transformed
molecule and the rest of the system.  Coul-SR should be zero.

Then the charges too, are turned off from 0 to 1? (1 state being the actual 
charges present in the topology file).


Charges are turned *on* if they are defined as off in the A-state (lambda=0) and
on in the B-state (lambda=1).

-Justin



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