Am 14.03.18 um 16:26 schrieb Ben Tam:
Hi Neha,

I have tried that, I have reduced the number of reaction coordinate (from 42 to 10 
windows) and still it gives me "nan". I have check each specific pullf.xvg and 
pullx.xvg, there are non zero value inside. Hence forth I don't understand what else 
going on.

Hi Mark,

Okay I will do that. However what file should I need to attach with the issue?

Thank you both for your answer. However I have one more question. When using gmx wham, it 
is either pullf.dat or pullx.dat are need to provide. As far as I know, you need the 
force act upon the position of the molecules. What I don't understand is, why do I only 
need to provide pullx or pullf but not both? how does "gmx wham" understand at 
what position that the force is applied or vice versa?  is it because it read it off .tpr?

WHAM needs the position, which can (obviously) be taken from pullx, but the position can also be computed from pullf when you know the force constant (since F = -k*dx). In doubt, I would always use pullf, since they files are usually smaller so reading is faster. Parsing pullf files is also much easier (so less bug-prone).

Please check your histograms carefully, do they really well overlap? You could also play with gmx wham -min -max. This can help to take out single data points in the first or last histograms (very right or very left) that are "disconnected" from the histograms.

Hope this helps,
Jochen


Thank you very much,

Ben
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From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se 
<gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se> on behalf of Awasthi, Neha 
<neha.awas...@biologie.uni-goettingen.de>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 15:16
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Umbrella Sampling - good histogram but no result in 
profile

Before labeling this as a bug and reporting on redmine, I suggest you try :


1) calculate the profile over part(s) of your reaction coordinate, i.e. reduce 
the number of windows you work with.

In other words,  start with small number of windows in pullx-files.dat & 
tpr-files.dat.

If you get partial profiles, it would point towards some windows (along your 
reaction coordinate) that cause problems.  One needs to patiently test 
increasing number of windows.


2) A small region of poor overlap can lead  to profiles with nan.

high k value should not be a problem provided you have the required number of 
windows and the histograms overlap (check about how much overlap is good 
overlap) . Sometimes, along a steep profile, histograms are difficult to 
assign, and tend to shift leading to small regions of poor overlap.


Hope this helps.


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From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se 
<gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se> on behalf of Mark Abraham 
<mark.j.abra...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:51 PM
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Umbrella Sampling - good histogram but no result in 
profile

Hi,

That would generally suggest something divided by zero, or similar, eg
because no data was in a histogram bin, etc.

That behavior is a bug that we could perhaps fix if you would be so kind as
to report it at https://redmine.gromacs.org.

But the core problem remains that something about how you sampled didn't
meet the expectations of gmx wham.

Mark

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018, 15:45 Ben Tam <btam...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dear all,

I have a rather strange problem. Currently I am trying to get a PMF of a
water molecule through a hydrophobic materials. At the end of using "gmx
wham", I get a rather good histogram and it cover the whole range of the
system. However at the making profile.xvg. I get the answer "nan" inside
the file. Therefore I really cannot think of why is it giving me that?

Currently I set it as :
;Pull code
pull = yes
;pull-cylinder-r = 0.5
pull_ngroups = 2
pull_ncoords = 1
pull_group1_name = SOL
pull_group2_name = MOL
pull_coord1_type = umbrella ; harmonic biasing force
pull_coord1_geometry = direction-periodic ; simple distance increase,
direction-periodic
pull_coord1_vec = 1 1 1
pull_coord1_groups = 1 2
pull_coord1_dim = Y Y Y
pull_coord1_rate = 0.00 ; 0.01 nm per ps = 10 nm per ns
pull_coord1_k = 10000 ; kJ mol^-1 nm^-2
pull_coord1_start = yes ; define initial COM distance > 0

Also this appears when I used the command "gmx wham":

Switched to exact iteration in iteration 1
            1) Maximum change -1.000000e+20
Converged in 2 iterations. Final maximum change -1e+20

Therefore I really don't understand what I have to do in order to get a
profile.xvg. I understand the k value is high, but without that high value,
the water won't settle within the assign window.

Am I doing something wrong? because I got a good histogram but no result
in the profile.xvg? Thank you very much for your help.

Best regards,

Ben


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