This 4x4x180 nm periodic NVT box is just incredibly bizarre. I didn't check your use of walls carefully, maybe this is intended as a capillary of some sort (I think it is impolite to post grompp's mdouts).

Anyway, not important, because 100 ns is not enough to reach equilibrium for a system like this, as evidenced by a density gradient obtained in the final structure, i.e. you likely have a slowly propagating sound wave after that initial highly ordered placement of your CH4 beads. A wave like this would be possible regardless of confinement -- merely the effect of huge anisotropy. I will not be able to continue the results obtained with that box, maybe others have more time for this kind of stuff...

Can you use insert-molecules to fill a cubic box (say, 5x5x5) and do a proper EM + dynamic relaxation run (NPT with Berendsen barostat) for, say, 20-30 ns?

Alex


On 5/9/2018 6:26 AM, Ming Geng wrote:
Thanks very much, Justin and Alex.
I am not familiar with Gromacs, I think it should start with some simple
system. I want to do is just a long box(4*4*180nm) of 20032 methane
molecule (density = 0.1853g/cm^3 ).  Fix the temperature at 400K, and then
I can calculate the pressure of the system. I checked with the equation of
state, at 400K, the pressure of this methane should be around 431 bar.
  All the settings files ( Initial structure, mpd file, forcefield files)
can be found in  my github repository
<https://github.com/gengmingchina/MethaneTest_Gromacs/tree/master/Settings>
  (https://github.com/gengmingchina/MethaneTest_Gromacs/tree/master/Settings).
You two or anyone else who would like to do us a favor to check what we
have done wrong in our simulation is welcomed to download the files.
Because we have a run with 100 ns. And we take four snaps from our run. The
pdb files of snaps can be found in the Structure-Snaps folder
<https://github.com/gengmingchina/MethaneTest_Gromacs/tree/master/Structure-Snaps>
  (
https://github.com/gengmingchina/MethaneTest_Gromacs/tree/master/Structure-Snaps
).

Ming Geng




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2018-05-08 18:38 GMT+08:00 Justin Lemkul <[email protected]>:


On 5/8/18 6:34 AM, Ming Geng wrote:

Thanks Alex,
      "common NVT" I mean is the simulation is only using the T coupling
and
no P coupling. The T P coupling part was set as following

*    ;; TEMPERATURE COUPLING*
*     ; Temperature coupling methods *
*     Tcoupl                   = nose-hoover*
*     ; frequency for coupling temperature*
*     nsttcouple               = -1*
*     ; Groups to couple separately*
*     tc-grps                  = SYSTEM*
*     ; Time constant (ps)*
*     tau_t                    =  2*
*     ; reference temperature (k)*
*      ref_t                    = 400      *
*   ;; PRESSURE COUPLING     *
*   ; pressure coupling methods*
*   pcoupl                   = no  *
*   ; way of pressure coupling *
*   pcoupltype               = isotropic*
*   ; frequency for coupling pressure*
*   nstpcouple               = -1*
*   ; Time constant (ps)*
*   tau_p                    = 2*
*   ; compressibility in bar^(-1)*
*   compressibility          = 4.5e-5 *
*   ; reference pressure*
*   ref_p                    = 1*

       The settings of the whole simulation are simple, but we get a weird
result. That is why I am writing here to get help. In our simulation, the
only unusual thing is the box size(4x4x180nm). In our test with normal
box,
like 4 x 4x 4 nm, the result will be correct as we think. Do you think
this
could be the reason we get a strange result? Thanks a lot.

Your observations likely indicate that the nonbonded model is inadequate.

-Justin


Ming Geng
-------------------------------------------------------------
*Dr. Ming Geng(耿明)*
Institute of Geology and Geophysics, CAS

Tel: +86-10-8299-8300
Email: [email protected]

2018-05-08 17:22 GMT+08:00 Alex <[email protected]>:

"Common NVT" and not properly set up NPT for organic fluid simulations?
What could possibly go wrong...

Alex


On May 8, 2018 3:15 AM, "Ming Geng" <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear all,
        We are trying some MD simulations with Gromacs recently. And we
found
some weird phenomenon in our test. We have about 20k pure methane in a
long
box(4 x 4 x 180 nm). We use OPLS-UA for methane molecule. After a 70ns of
common NVT simulation, we found the methane begin to condensate. The
simulation box shows like
          [methane|    vacuum    |       methane     |    vacuum
  |methane]
.
But at the temperature we simulate, the methane should be in gas phase.

       Does anyone have any clue how this happens?




Thanks


Ming Geng
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Institute of Geology and Geophysics, CAS

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