Dear All,

(hope this message can be put under the original thread)


I solved this problem. The reason is, I was trying to fill the system with 
water then minimise it, which is not good.


The better way is, prepare a waterbox that is even larger than the system box. 
Then minimise that water box. Then fill the system with that minimised water 
box. Problem solved!


Best
Cheng




------------------ Original ------------------
From:  "ZHANG Cheng"<272699...@qq.com>;
Date:  Tue, Jan 22, 2019 10:20 PM
To:  "gromacs.org_gmx-users"<gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se>;

Subject:  Re:  Re:  "Too many LINCS warnings" in a minimization after solvation 
with coarse-grained waters



Dear Fotis and Peter,


Thank you very much for the help.


Fotis, Can I modify the mdp file to use "soft" potential modifier, how to do 
that?


I think my problem is not the first reason (i.e. something wrong with the 
system structure or topology), because the potential is decreasing for the 
minimization step after inserting 10 protein molecules
https://github.com/lanselibai/martini/blob/master/20190121_LINCS/minimization%20after%20insert%2010%20proteins.jpg
$ Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 4251 steps,
$ but did not reach the requested Fmax < 1.
$ Potential Energy  = -2.4130119e+05
$ Maximum force     =  9.1535597e+00 on atom 2335
$ Norm of force     =  7.1063030e-01





Peter, how to replace all constraints for stiff bonds?





------------------ Original ------------------
From:  "ZHANG Cheng"<272699...@qq.com>;
Date:  Tue, Jan 22, 2019 05:58 AM
To:  "gromacs.org_gmx-users"<gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se>;

Subject:  Re: "Too many LINCS warnings" in a minimization after solvation with 
coarse-grained waters



I also tried to reduce the "emtol" gradually in the mdp file, i.e. from 1000 to 
100 to 10. It passed the "emtol = 1000" but it stopped again at "emtol = 100", 
i.e. outputting dozens of pdb files before the "LINCS warnings".


Then I looked at the edr files.
The potential in "emtol = 1000" and "emtol = 100" runs were actually converging
https://github.com/lanselibai/martini/blob/master/20190121_LINCS/emtol%201000%20then%20100.png


My understanding for the "LINCS warnings" is, the system is not stable. But why 
the potential is still converging?


Do I need to adjust the "lincs warning threshold", or "set the environment 
variable GMX_MAXCONSTRWARN to -1"? How to do that?


Is there a "standard" mdp file for minimization for a coarse-grained system 
with 10 proteins in water?
I am using this, but I do not know how to modify it.
https://github.com/lanselibai/martini/blob/master/20190121_LINCS/minimization_solvate.mdp




------------------ Original ------------------
From:  "ZHANG Cheng"<272699...@qq.com>;
Date:  Tue, Jan 22, 2019 00:12 AM
To:  "gromacs.org_gmx-users"<gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se>;

Subject:  "Too many LINCS warnings" in a minimization after solvation with 
coarse-grained waters



I am doing coarse-grained (CG) modelling for 10 proteins in a box. I was told 
"Too many LINCS warnings" in the minimization after solvation with 
coarse-grained waters.


I try to diagnose the problems based on 
http://manual.gromacs.org/documentation/2018/user-guide/terminology.html#blowing-up


My procedure is


1) A single CG-protein was firstly minimized in vacuum, no problem


2) Then 10 of this protein were inserted to a box, followed by a minimization. 
It "stopped because the algorithm tried to make a new step whose size was too 
small, or there was no change in the energy since last step." So I think this 
minimization is also successful.


3) The system was then solvated by
$ gmx solvate -cp 10_noW_minimized.gro -cs water-box-CG_303K-1bar.gro -radius 
0.21 -o system-solvated.gro -p system.top


4) Then the solvated system is minimized by
$ gmx grompp -f minimization_solvate.mdp -c system-solvated.gro -p system.top 
-o system-min-solvent.tpr
$ gmx mdrun -deffnm system-min-solvent -v -c system-min-solvent.gro

PDB structures were outputted from step 327 to step 710, and it stopped due to 
the "LINCS warnings".


The "minimization_solvate.mdp" is here
https://github.com/lanselibai/martini/blob/master/20190121_LINCS/minimization_solvate.mdp


The "system-min-solvent.log" is here
https://github.com/lanselibai/martini/blob/master/20190121_LINCS/system-min-solvent.log


So I think the system with 10 proteins in vacuum is okay (right?). But when 
CG-water is added, it got problem? How to modify my system? Let me know if you 
need other information. Thank you.


Cheng
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