Dear Jeff,

Apologies for the late answer...

We think having this sequencing done at the protocol level allows everyone to 
benefit from the sequencing regardless of the collector implementation. Other 
telemetry protocols like Yang-Push and IPFIX also provide similar sequencing 
capabilities.

Secondly, with other transport protocols such as QUIC, we believe that this 
will help the ordering of a session multiplexed over streams (eg; peer state 
and route-monitoring/stats messages over different streams).

Thirdly, we believe that using a sequence number produced by the protocol, and 
which is part of the message makes it easier to identify and retrieve a message 
based on its sequence number instead of multiple properties like timestamp + 
peer address + ...

Best,
draft-ietf-bmp-grow-tlv authors


----- Mail original -----
De: "Jeffrey Haas" <[email protected]>
À: "grow" <[email protected]>
Envoyé: Dimanche 8 Mars 2026 20:15:25
Objet: [GROW] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv-20.txt

Authors,

I think you'll have some interesting discussion queued for the upcoming 
session at IETF 125 about the new TLVs.

The one that catches my eye in particular is the sequence TLV. While I 
absolutely understand the motivation for it, I wish to highlight two 
underlying properties:

1. Implementations will likely just keep this as a local counter at 
their PDU serialization layer and it will have zero additional meaning 
in the implementation.  To do so contrarily will be to need to keep 
considerations about how this impacts internal state.  Such an example 
would be churn visible in a YANG model for BGP augmented with BMP state.

2. The most obvious use case is to make receiving implementations 
happy.  One could observe that given the likely property of 1, wouldn't 
it be better to simply advise receiving implementations "keep track of 
these PDUs by sequence locally?"

-- Jeff


On 3/2/26 11:35, [email protected] wrote:
> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv-20.txt is now available. It is a work
> item of the Global Routing Operations (GROW) WG of the IETF.
>
>     Title:   BMP v4: Extended TLV Support for BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP)

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