draft-iesg-tcpmd5app-01.txt

Interestingly, when the work was going on for the new, soon to appear, BGP4 RFC,
many BGP sessions had no security at all but a spate of attacks about two years
ago caused many if not most to turn on MD5; I saw evidence of this in
presentations to RIPE.

RPsec is currently considering a charter update to include a draft for point-to-point security for all protocols, including the replacement of MD5. No draft yet, but volunteers are welcome. :-)

rpsec appeared to be the forum to move this on further but seems stalled with
two (or more) diametrically opposed views; whether or not the IETF has a process
to progress this I await with interest (perhaps it goes under the name of sidr).

Actually, I would characterize the impasse in rpsec as two things:

-- Not enough participants. We're down to 7 votes, in the last vote on the idr requirements doc. Since people aren't going to "change sides" at this point, we probably need more participation to form a wide concensus.

-- Three basic viewpoints:

-- The BGP specification should be taken as a process explaining how routes should be handled. Security mechanisms should ensure that process takes place on every router.

-- The BGP specificiation should be taken to describe a system that distributes routing information throughout an internetwork. Security mechanisms should ensure the accuracy of the data, including some bits of policy, at least (origin authentication being the strongest example). The point is to make certain the information advertised matches reality.

-- The entire concept of doing some new system or protocol enhancement to "secure" BGP is off on the wrong track. We should just focus on quick fixes, and worry about replacing BGP.

The last vote seems to have fallen along three lines.... All of the folks in the first camp voted against it. Some of the folks in the second camp voted for it, while others voted against it, because of "nits" or because "it doesn't cover x well enough." I think we'll always get those, and I don't know that we'll ever actually make it perfect enough, in those sorts of senses. All of the folks in the last camp voted against it, saying we don't need requirements at all.

That seems to be the status at the moment, or at least my perception of it (which could be wrong).

:-)

Russ

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