Sorry to reply to my own message.
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Dean Anderson wrote:
> I object to this document on the following grounds:
>
> Objections were made to the DNSOP WG regarding at least 6 problems with the
^^^^^^^^
That should read, the "GROW WG"
> document that were not addressed:
>
> http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/grow/msg00426.html
> http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/grow/msg00462.html
>
> There may be additional problems.
>
> The notion of a safe stateful anycast operation as asserted by Daniel
> Karrenberg
> (http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0505/pdf/karrenberg.pdf) has now been discredited.
> Karrenberg's document misled people to believe that stateful anycast was safe,
> when in fact Karrenberg didn't perform any stateful testing whatsoever.
>
> So, there is no evidence that stateful anycast is safe, and substantial
> evidence
> that it is not safe: Mark Kosters reports on data gathered at J root:
>
> http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0410/pdf/kosters.pdf
>
> + Expected to see a saw tooth distribution .
> instead have a noisy distribution in many cases
> + Does not affect UDP
> + DO NOT RUN Anycast with Stateful Transport
>
> http://www.rssac.org/meetings/04-08/2004WashDC.html
> Kosters repeats warning on stateful DNS Anycast, but is disputed by
> Karrenberg. It is later found (January, 2006) that Karrenberg has done no
> stateful testing whatsoever, and did not reveal that his testing was only for
> stateless DNS, and therefore irrelevant to Kosters data. This discovery was
> only made when Anderson examined the source code to the DNSMON program written
> by Karrenberg to conduct this testing.
>
> Stateful transport includes large UDP ENDSO packets which are required by
> DNSSEC.
>
> The draft-ietf-grow-anycast document incorrectly gives the impression that
> stateful anycast is safe. This is a an incorrect conclusion based on
> discredited research. Therefore this document should not be accepted for
> technical reasons.
>
> DNS Anycast controversy and inappropriate behavior by officials during
> discussion of this document gives rise to questions on both the integrity of
> the
> document, and questions as to whether all points of views have been adequately
> considered.
>
> To summarize the controvery: During discussion of this document and the
> subject
> of DNS Anycast and DNS Root Anycast, David Kessens, Area Director for the
> Operations Area which includes DNSOP WG and the GROW WG, attempted to conspire
> with Brian Carpenter, David Crocker, and Susan Harris to improperly silence
> discussion of problems with DNS Anycast [and the same persons also tried to
> improperly silence questions regarding the integrity of an IETF spam document
> authored by Crocker]. Then 4 IESG members acted with conflicts of interest in
> violation of the ISOC and IETF charter and rules to silence discussion of this
> matter. An IAB appeal documents this inappropriate behavior. The IAB has not
> yet
> ruled on the matter.
>
> For example, during this time, Kessens asserted (incorrectly) that DNS Root
> server operations were off-topic for the DNSOP WG, and then inappropriately
> demanded that discussion of DNS Root Anycast on the DNSOP WG be halted.
> Subsequently, it was proposed that DNSOP WG be re-chartered to remove DNS root
> server operations from its charter. Somewhat strangely, but consistent with
> other absurd allegations, Kessens et al refused to concede that DNS Root
> Anycast
> was presently on-topic for DNSOP WG. There are other allegations too numerous
> to
> fully list here. See http://www.iab.org/appeals/index.html "Appeal Against
> IESG
> PR-Action from Dean Anderson, 18 April 2006" for more information.
>
> As a result, my views have not been adequately presented or considered.
>
> An appeal is therefore registered under Section 6.5.1 and 6.5.2 of RFC 2026.
>
> Dean Anderson
> Av8 Internet, Inc
>
>
>
>
> I have begun to collect a history of DNS Anycast at
> http://www.av8.net/IETF-watch/DNSRootAnycast/History.html
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, The IESG wrote:
>
> > The IESG has received a request from the Global Routing Operations WG to
> > consider the following document:
> >
> > - 'Operation of Anycast Services '
> > <draft-ietf-grow-anycast-03.txt> as a BCP
> >
> > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> > final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the
> > [email protected] or [email protected] mailing lists by 2006-06-16.
> >
> > The file can be obtained via
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-grow-anycast-03.txt
> >
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> >
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