Hello Evan,

Thanks for taking part of the com-stream.

Communicating with links:
Just to say: you ask for donations, I gave you one, and hoped it would  
be a help on the way. Marketing: well, how do you communicate with  
your marked. - Peter Hosey has joined us, this is from his reply:


Den 3. okt.. 2009 kl. 07.25.59 skrev Peter Hosey:

>
> On Oct 2, 2009, at 22:16:21, Terje Christiansen wrote:
>> … you turn down my request just like that, without a good reason,
>> …
>
> Your original request was a “thank you for donating!” sign. That
> means either a checkbox labeled “I donated” or a licensing system.
>
> With regard to a licensing system, he did give you a good reason. A
> licensing system is very complex to get right, and we have other
> things to do (like fix bugs and improve core functionality—that is,
> receiving and displaying notifications).
>
> That leaves a checkbox, which is much simpler. But remember, we have
> two and a half active developers, so even little things like a
> checkbox take up a disproportionate amount of developer time that
> isn't worth it compared to fixing bugs and improving core  
> functionality.
>
> If we had, say, half a dozen developers, I'd happily have one of us
> throw in a checkbox and call it done. As it is, your feature, little
> as it is, is not little enough.
>
>> … read your marketing literature.
>
> Growl is free. Marketing is for things that are for sale.
>
>
> 
Thanks to all of you for your replies.

Maybe it would have been more easy to feed me: 'thanks for your input,  
we take it into consideration.
I apreciate your limeted resources, who hasen't, and the:  'That
means either a checkbox labeled “I donated” or a licensing system' -  
is just what I was thinking of, - thanks. Communication is at best  
difficult, who hasn't experienced a backclach trying to 'talk  
straight'. - Kotler has a few very well proven insights to take  
guidens from.

Well, mynheere - a simple checkbox would be nice. I'm sure every Growl- 
user will be very happy with that - thankyou.

Best, Beff


Den 3. okt.. 2009 kl. 07.20.41 skrev Evan Schoenberg, M.D.:

> On Oct 3, 2009, at 12:16 AM, Terje Christiansen 
> <[email protected] 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello Chris,
>>
>> I see your point, and I prefere you to stay with the app-config  
>> prior to candy for now. After our talk, I'm sure I remember Growl  
>> and me donating, till I'm ready for the dust, and Growl hopefully  
>> have grown into all types of communication-platforms, serving  
>> people with smart information.
>> I do got my receipts, for the future I hope the message in the  
>> Growl-pref-pane are saying I'v donated. - That's what it says in  
>> the most common apps after donating.
>> So, when you turn down my request just like that, without a good  
>> reason,
>
> You gave the reason yourself above. There are far better ways to  
> allocate the Growl team's extremely limited resources.
>
>
>> why don't you return my money, and the world wouldn't be any wiser.  
>> The internet is your maker and braker.
>>
>> Chris, start knowing, start having an insightful thought , in this  
>> case: read your marketing literature. I'm sure you find something  
>> in this sites:
>>
>> Welcome to Kotler Marketing Group, Inc.
>>
>> Welcome to About.com
>>
>> - or find a library.
>>
>> I'll await your full reply.
>
> What are you attempting to communicate with these links?
>
> Cheers,
> Evan
>
>
>>
>>
>> Beff
>>
>> Den 3. okt.. 2009 kl. 05.59.06 skrev Chris Forsythe:
>>
>>> I don't know that we'll do anything like that. While we appreciate  
>>> donations, we're not interested in implementing something like a  
>>> licensing scheme (or something similar). It is a nice idea at  
>>> first glance, but at least in my mind it's a lot more complicated  
>>> to do right, and we have bugs and features that I think we should  
>>> address rather than spending time on this.
>>>
>>> I would definitely recommend keeping a physical folder with a  
>>> receipt for either case, that way if there is any question you can  
>>> refer back to it.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Terje Christiansen 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Christopher Forsythe,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for replying.
>>>>
>>>> I'm asking for a markup in my copy of an app, in this case Growl,  
>>>> that tells me I have donated/payed my fees. My memory needs  
>>>> backup, so this could be a good thing for me, but not for, in  
>>>> this case, Growl. Just show me you got my donation. -  I'll be  
>>>> happy using your service. - You'll be happy spending your earnings.
>>>>
>>>> Best, Beff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Den 3. okt.. 2009 kl. 05.14.51 skrev Christopher Forsythe:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not really sure what you're asking for here.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:06 PM, beffringen <[email protected] 
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I like to see a feedback in my copy of Growl after my donation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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