Hi Jim, thank you for your comment. Yes your are right, the right order of Actions is more related to Project planning.
But for me it is just a convenience feature. There are Projects (in the GTD meaning of a project) where you exactly know what you have to do after one Action. Normaly you finish one Action, mark it as done and do the next thing, perhaps related to other projects. When you review your projects you find your project and move the obvious future action to next. And exactly that is what i want to automate. IF i know what to do next, i can define that dependency while defining my actions. It saves time doing the Project review. Example: Person B wants to know the result of a call with Person A. so both "call person A" and "call person b to inform about call with A" are in my call list. The second is "Future" beause it can not be done now. So when i finished the call with "A" the second call is moved automaticaly to the "call" context. Now it is possible that the next call will be to person B right now, and not after the next project review. I fully agree, please don't turn MGTD into a Project Management tool. If this happens it will be more complicated (and maybe slower) to use for GTD. Merry Christmas, Carsten On 23 Dez., 15:15, Jim McD <jim_mcdonne...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > Well done on the coding. Action dependancies are outside of GTD > though, and within the realm of project planning. There are loads of > free and commercial project planning tools on the market, that will do > dependancies, critical path ananlysis, "float", resource management > etc. MS Project is one. > > However there are very few GTD tools, and MGTD is probably the best > there is. Please don't change MGTD from a GTD tool into a ten-a-penny > project manager. > > About half the posts to this group are requests for MGTD to be turned > into something else, eg. project planner, mail client, address book, > PIM tool, calenndar manager. All worthy applications, but nothing to > do with GTD really, and well catered for elsewhere. > > Sorry to be so negative around Christmas time. Have a happy > Christmas! And well done on the coding, it's more than I could have > managed. > > Jim. > > On Dec 20, 1:33 pm, Carsten Thiele <googlegro...@carsten-thiele.de> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > i converted my "Hack" to a complete plugin. I Uploaded a Demo into > > this group as file: monkeygtd-SequencedActionsPlugin-demo.zip > > (http://gtd-tiddlywiki.googlegroups.com/web/monkeygtd-SequencedActions... > > ) The html-Upload did not work, so i added the zip-File, that can be > > downloaded from the files area. > > > When you unzip it, and open the file with this added to the filename: > > > #[[SequencedActions%20Demo]]%20Action1%20Action2%20Action3%20Action4%20 > > [[Do%20Something]]%20Action5 > > > or just open the "SequencedActions Demo" Tidder for instructions. > > > Maybe this helps, > > Carsten > > > On 17 Dez., 22:22, Carsten Thiele <googlegro...@carsten-thiele.de> > > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > i modified my monkeygtd to support "sequenced"-Actions. I use the > > > normal Tag-Feature to Control the sequence of the actions. When i > > > create an action that depends on another action i just "Tag" it with > > > the name of the first one, and set it to "Future". When the first > > > Action is marked as "Done" or, if it is a Ticker, is marked as > > > "Actioned" (only works for one-time-Ticklers). the second action is > > > modified from "Future" to "Next". There is no GUI-Support for this, i > > > have to edit the Actions and type in manualy the name of the Actions > > > in the Tags-Field. > > > > Maybe with an Example its more clear to understand: > > > > First > > > Action: > > > "Action 1" > > > > Can be done when Action 1 is finished: "Action > > > 2" "Action3" > > > > Can be done when A2 and A3 are finished: "Action > > > 4" > > > > I create the actions like this > > > > Action 1, a normal "Next" Action > > > > Action 2 and Action 3 "Future" Actions Tagged with "[Action 1]" > > > > Action 4 "Future" action Tagged with "[Action 2] [Action 3]" > > > > - Now, when i finish "Action 1", the code searches for Actions with > > > the Tag "Action 1", and finds "Action 2" and "Action 3". > > > - For each Action the code searches if all required Actions (only > > > "Action 1" in this case) are done. If this is true, the Action (here > > > Action 2 and 3) are moved from "Future" to "Next" > > > - If i "undo" Action 1, Action 2 and Action 3 are moved from "Next" to > > > "Future" > > > > - When "Action 2" is finished, again all Actions with the Tag "Action > > > 2" are searched, in this case just "Action 4". > > > - The Code starts searching all Actions and Ticklers that are > > > referenced in the Tag-field of Action 4. It finds "Action 2" as done, > > > but "Action 3" as not done, so the "Action 4"-Action is NOT moved from > > > "Future" to "Next" > > > - Now "Action 3" is done, too. > > > - The Code again searches for all Actions and Tickers that are > > > referenced in the Tag-field of Action 4. Now it finds both Actions > > > (Action 2 and Action 3) as "Done" so "Action 4" is moved from > > > "Future" to Next". > > > > The visualisation in the GUI for this solution is not very good. In > > > the Project-Dashboard the Actions are not ordered in the right way, > > > and you can not see that there are dependencies between the actions. > > > But for me this is ok, its just for "auto-nexting" one of the future > > > actions, so that i dont have to do a check of the "Projects with no > > > next action"-View. Or Project Dashboard every time i finish an Action > > > that is part of a Project. > > > > Maybe someone else can add some UI-Support to this solution. > > > > Until now i did not test it with MonkeyGTDs with many Actions, so > > > maybe there is still a performance problem with this, but for my (at > > > the moment) small test environment it works good. Next step will be > > > more tests and the integration in my "production"-monkeygtd. > > > > Please do not integrate this without good testing in your production- > > > Monkey-GTDs. Maybe there is still something wrong that can cause your > > > data to be damaged! > > > > So here is what i have done. > > > > I modified the function "TiddlyWiki.prototype.setTiddlerTag". now it > > > contains this code: > > > > TiddlyWiki.prototype.setTiddlerTag = function(title,status,tag) > > > { > > > var tiddler = this.fetchTiddler(title); > > > if(tiddler) { > > > var t = tiddler.tags.indexOf(tag); > > > if(t != -1) > > > tiddler.tags.splice(t,1); > > > if(status) > > > tiddler.tags.push(tag); > > > tiddler.changed(); > > > this.incChangeCount(title); > > > this.notify(title,true); > > > this.setDirty(true); > > > > // here starts my modification > > > if (tag == "Done" || tag == "Actioned") { > > > var dependend = this.getTaggedTiddlers(title); > > > var tiddlersWithTag = ""; > > > for(var m = 0; m < dependend.length; m++) { > > > var currentTiddler = dependend[m]; > > > if (status) { > > > if > > > (this.allPreviousActionsAreDone(currentTiddler)) { > > > > > > this.setTiddlerTag(currentTiddler.title, !status, "Future"); > > > > > > this.setTiddlerTag(currentTiddler.title, status, "Next"); > > > } > > > } else { > > > > > > this.setTiddlerTag(currentTiddler.title, !status, "Future"); > > > > > > this.setTiddlerTag(currentTiddler.title, status, "Next"); > > > } > > > } > > > story.refreshAllTiddlers(); > > > } > > > } > > > > }; > > > > and i added this new function: > > > > TiddlyWiki.prototype.allPreviousActionsAreDone = function > > > (tiddlerToCheck) { > > > var tagsToIgnore = ["Future", "Done", "Tickler", "Action", > > > "Realm", > > > "Project", "[(Waiting For)]"]; > > > var tags = tiddlerToCheck.tags; > > > var allPreviousDone = true; > > > for (var m = 0; m < tags.length; m++) { > > > var currentTag = tags[m]; > > > if (!tagsToIgnore.contains(currentTag)) { > > > var tiddlerToCheck = > > > this.fetchTiddler(currentTag); > > > if((tiddlerToCheck.tags.contains("Action") && ! > > > tiddlerToCheck.tags.contains("Done")) || (tiddlerToCheck.tags.contains > > > ("Tickler") && !tiddlerToCheck.tags.contains("Actioned"))) { > > > allPreviousDone = false; > > > } > > > } > > > } > > > return allPreviousDone; > > > > } > > > > Maybe this is usefull for someone, comments are welcome. > > > > Carsten --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GTD TiddlyWiki" group. 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