On Thursday 07 August 2003 11:53, Emile le Vivre wrote:
> About the 'servent', I think it's probably not the best term in the
> world, it may be a little too subtle for those with poorer spelling
> skills.  I forgot most of you folks are europeans (you are, right?) so
> this is less of an issue.  I sometimes worry about our american friends
> though.

I don't think this is a problem. And I say this as an American--I was born in 
America, and I even went to California public high-schools (at the time they 
weren't the 49th best in the country, but that's not so much because they 
were better back then as because Texas and a few other states apparently made 
a concerted effort to "catch down" to us).

In fact, I believe the term was invented in America. It may even have been 
invented right here in Southern California. I actually heard it from a suit 
at Sony Multimedia (who didn't know the term "p2p" and asked me, "Is that 
something to do with servents?") before I saw even techies from Europeans or 
Silicon Valley types using it. 

If those monkeys at Sony could understand it, I think the rest of America can 
handle it.

As for spelling, distinguishing servent from servant is easy: servent is the 
one your spell-checker flags in red. Seriously, far more Americans will have 
problems with "queued" (since we don't use that work in any context except 
computers, unlike the rest of the English-speaking world).

Besides, don't worry about your "American friends;" you can't possibly have 
any, as the government has long ago rounded up anyone who had French-speaking 
friends (except Louisiana cajuns--but especially French Canadians, as we all 
know that Canada's new gay marriage laws are a deliberate attempt to turn all 
of America gay so the commie pinkos can invade and Jesus won't defend us).

> I recently had a buddy up from new york who pronounced foyer 
> such that it would rhyme with lawyer.  He thought I was crazy, mais
> c'est la vie.

As in faw-yuh, rhyming with law-yuh?

The pronunciation issue is a bit more serious than the spelling issue (if any 
p2p'ers ever leave their room or speak on the phone). In both American and 
British English, if the first syllable is accented, a short vowel in the 
second syllable becomes as schwa--so both "servant" and "servent" would be 
pronounced /ser'[EMAIL PROTECTED]/. 

The solution I've most often heard is to put secondary or even primary stress 
on the second syllable of "servent," so it's either /ser'-vent"/ or 
/sr-vent'/. Either way, that makes the two words clearly distinguishable, 
even to those who've never heard of "servents."

> Maybe they drink too much 'Lite' beer.

You know very well that our 'Lite' beer is every bit as strong as our regular 
beer (which is at least half as strong as Canadian beer). 

> ps. Raphael: You may know this already but: In case you ever venture
> into gtk2, glade-2 is nearly identical interface-wise to glade.  glade-2
> can't handle gtk1 files though (they changed the glade file XML format)
> but glade and glade-2 can coexist nicely on the same system.

There used to be a glade-1 to glade-2 converter, but it seems to have 
disappeared quite some time ago. That would be a useful project for someone 
to start up again.



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