Rewriting a widely-used library in a new language, breaking all APIs, is not a good idea when we're already struggling to maintain our current codebase. Regardless of whether you like C++ or not, this isn't going to happen. Sorry.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:06 PM, 黄羽众 <ih...@163.com> wrote: > Thank you for point out predecessors' question! > > I read the question and get some points, but I thinks the situtations > change a lot and I am not ask the same question. > > 1. I am not ask for why GTK choose to implement in C, I know it have some > historical reason. I want to make a proposal that gtk could be re-written > with c++ just as GCC does. I want to discuss with you whether it is a good > idea. > > 2. Situations change a lot. Back to the time GTK was born, C++ is also > very primitive so the developers would rather implement an object-system by > hand. But nowadays C++ is stable and have many cool features especially in > C++11 and the in-coming C++14. C++'s object-system is becoming more and > more complete and add many useful features in GUI development such as > exception, multi-threads and so on. I think due to the same reason did GCC > turn to C++. > > 3. Now, from the view of app developers, who are very likely learned > C/C++/Java in classes, and learn Python/JS/PHP/Nodejs after class. And very > probably have experiences coding with QT, HTML5, Android. They can't be > more familiar with OOP and C++. But when they turn to GTK, they have to > expand one line in C++ into three or more lines in C. This will threaten > many developers. Although there are gtkmm available, but gtkmm didn't gain > enough official support and recommend as GTK, and much fewer reference, > help, support available. The official recommand is gtk in c rather than > gtkmm in c++, so many devlopers read some tutorials and feel threatened and > leave. What's worse, gtkmm didn't wrapper all of the gtk featurese. In some > complex cases, developers have to use the low level gobj pointer to get > things done. > > > Now is in 2014, It can't be more normal to develop GUI application with > OOP style. I think it's time to change. > > GTK could be rewritten in C++, and what's more important, GTK should > officially recommend to develop apps in C++, which can't be more familiar > to GUI developers. > > > Sent from MEIZU MX > > -------- Original Message -------- > From：Florian Pelz <pelzflor...@googlemail.com> > Time：Fri 8/8 05:23 > To：gtk-list@gnome.org > Subject：Re: Would it be possible that gtk implementation in C++ > > >Hi, > > > >Someone asked this question on Stackoverflow: > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9747468/why-was-the-gobject-system-created > >I think they answer it pretty well. Also, C is much closer to the > >hardware and GCC's error messages for C++ are not that great. > > > >On 08/07/2014 10:49 PM, Dub wrote: > >> tbh, the only reason I use GTK is because it is C. > >> > >> While C++ is probably a better choice. C allows you to easier > >> integrate it with pretty much any language of your choosing easily > >> (Vala, Ruby, PHP (lol), Python, Rust, Go, Perl, Lua, Javascript, etc) > >> that in itself is a really good reason. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:22 PM, 黄羽众 <ih...@163.com > >> <mailto:ih...@163.com>> wrote: > >> > >> For the past few time, I am using gtkmm to development GUI > >> application, and I am really enjoy it. > >> > >> I know that choose C as its implementation language makes gtk gain > >> a wonderful performance, > >> but recently GCC turn to C++. > >> https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.8/changes.html > >> > >> I think that as a complier which have to think a lot about > >> performance, it turn to C++ for code elegance and development speed, > >> a GUI application have no reason to continue using C stuff. > >> > >> Actually gtk implement a object system as its essential part, that > >> did prove that GUI application need a object-oriented design. > >> And C++ could provide this as a language level feaure, needless to > >> implement it in application code. > >> > >> So I suggest that it is possible to develop gtk in c++ as > >> main-line support? > >> > >> Unlike gtkmm, which is just a wrapper from c++ to c, turn to c++ > >> in main-line means a lot. > >> > >> GCC choose this and get good result, I think gtk could have a try. > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> gtk-list mailing list > >> gtk-list@gnome.org <mailto:gtk-list@gnome.org> > >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> gtk-list mailing list > >> gtk-list@gnome.org > >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >gtk-list mailing list > >gtk-list@gnome.org > >https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > > _______________________________________________ > gtk-list mailing list > gtk-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > > -- Jasper
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