On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 14:04 +0200, Krzesimir Nowak wrote:
> 2015-06-24 9:27 GMT+02:00 Murray Cumming <[email protected]>:
> > On Fri, 2015-05-08 at 15:29 +0200, Krzesimir Nowak wrote:
> >> 2015-05-06 21:44 GMT+02:00 Murray Cumming <[email protected]>:
> >> > Yet this page still says
> >> > "Important: GCC's support for C++11 is still experimental."
> >> > https://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html
> >> >
> >> > However, the following sentence suggest that the page might be out
> >> of
> >> > date, given that the final C++11 standard has happened: "Some
> >> features
> >> > were implemented based on early proposals, and no attempt will be
> >> made
> >> > to maintain backward compatibility when they are updated to match
> >> the
> >> > final C++11 standard."
> >> >
> >> > On the other hand, that page still seems to be the official place to
> >> > find out about g++'s C++1 support. So I remain confused.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I asked on gcc mailing list about it - gcc folks want to have C++11 as
> >> a default dialect in gcc 6, so I suppose that C++11 has full support
> >> already. Maybe my question will prod them to update the gcc manual
> >> about supported language standards.
> >>
> >> Please see https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2015-05/msg00075.html.
> >
> > I don't see any reply to your question. So I'm still stuck with wanting
> > to use C++11 but having a big official warning telling me not to.
> 
> I probably joined this mailing list thread a bit too late for anyone
> to pay attention. But I asked about this on #gcc channel and they told
> me that c++11 is officially supported in gcc5, but the manual is
> outdated. But well, that's IRC - there are no official logs containing
> my question, no pics, it didn't happen. I can only paste a fragment
> from the channel (where "jakub" is Jakub Jelínek, one of gcc
> maintainers):
> 
> Irfy: he feels the support is still too experimental and not yet
> real-world tested enough
> krnowak: Irfy: Documentation is still saying that c++11 is
> experimental in gcc 5.1.
> Irfy: really? i thought i came across the wording "full support for
> c++11" in the release notes?
> Irfy: https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/changes.html but under 'Runtime
> Library (libstdc++)"
> krnowak: Irfy: 
> https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-5.1.0/gcc/Standards.html#Standards
> and to go point 2.2 (C++ language).
> krnowak: It's probably outdated, dunno.
> krnowak: As it doesn't mention C++14 at all.
> jakub: c++11 is not experimental in gcc 5.1, indeed, that Standards
> section of the docs is outdated

Thanks. That's very helpful.

If gcc 5.1's C++11 support is not experimental then I really think they
should change their gcc 5.1 documentation to stop saying that their C
++11 support is experimental.

And this general page really needs to be updated likewise:
https://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html

Could those of you in contact with these people please at least find
somewhere to report this documentation problem?


-- 
Murray Cumming
[email protected]
www.murrayc.com


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