In a message dated 99-09-27 19:51:04 EDT, you write: << First, welcome. Second, I must be the only one on this list who thinks his GTS is light. I come from a Concours, and let me tell you...that bike is heavy and it only weighs about 60 lbs more than the GTS. >> I let a friend ride mine who rides an ST1100, and he was shocked at how much lighter the GTS felt than his ST1100. Interestingly enough, when he rode a GTS in 93, he thought it was heavy, but was comparing it to his then ride of a GS1100ES. The GTS is not as flickable as a TDM, but can be ridden at a good pace. RSRBOB