Jim, Yes they are available, about $580 and 5 weeks out of Germany. I just got some and are very pleased. A helmet will not fit inside but they are still the same capacity as the std ST1100 or BMW bags. Huge 46Ls are available also but if you are like me, you may not like the wide look. They are relatively easy to fit and a breeze to operate. When removed the mounting rack is very inconspicuous, unlike the Givis, and they are shaped to fit the bike meaning they would be narrower for the same volume than the Givis. Any specific questions? Joe. -----Original Message----- From: guss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 2:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: bags saw a thread a while back about givi v. krauser, but i have little information about the 34-liter krauser bags. i'm wondering if they might be a good way to go, but wonder if i ought to wonder first, ;-) , for example, if they are at all available, and what other concerns i should take into account. does anyone know much about these? thanks, -- jim