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In your message dated: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:06:23 EST,
your pithy ruminations on <RE: RE: ABS issue - Yamaha's response> were:
=> OK, maybe we should go public now? What do you all think?
=>
=> Here is my suggested press release:
As Jay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said, a letter to the editor (MCN?) would be more
appropriate.
If you are going to send a letter, here are some suggested changes:
=>
=> **************************************************
=> YAMAHA GTS 1000 ABS FAILURE EPIDEMIC
=>
=> An internet discussion group for Yamaha GTS enthusiasts, has conducted a
^
delete the unnecessary comma
I think that "internet discussion group[s]" still don't have much credence.
It
may be better to simply say "The premier Yamaha GTS owner's group has
conducted..."
=> survey showing that at least 39 discussion group GTS owners have, or have
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
delete
=> had, ABS systems which have failed. The brakes revert to conventional
You can just stay "have had ABS systems which have failed". Whether the
brake
system has been repaired or not, the failure occured in the past.
=> operation without the owner being aware since the ABS malfunction warning
=> light does not illuminate for this type of failure. The only way to know
of
=> the failure is to intentionally try to lock the brakes or to run a
=> diagnostics test.
I'd skip the "diagnostics test" because (according to the owner's manual),
there is _no_ diagnostics test. I'd refer to the owner's manual whereever
possible, and place the burden on Yamaha to diagnose the problem. It sounds
more critical if the implication (absolutely true, according to the
manufacturer's procedures) is that there is no way for an owner to be sure
the
ABS is working without trying the brakes while riding!
=>
=> The GTS list has about 100? regular subscribers and only approximately 800
=> GTS's were sold in the US. Most owners have not had the system repaired
due
Better wording might be:
The owners group consists of about 15% of all the GTS owners in the US
and has owners from NN other countries. About 35% of US owners have
experienced ABS system failures.
I'd avoid saying how few people own GTSs or what a small sample was really
involved.
=> to the prohibitive cost charged for replacement of the ABS hydraulic unit
=> (HU). Yamaha refuses to repair the HUs and has insisted on replacing the
=> entire HU at a cost of about $2000.
That's their option. I wouldn't beat them up over it. The aim here is not to
make Yamaha seem like they are price gouging, but to get the brakes fixed!
If
it's a "sealed part" and they don't want to repair it, fine! As owners, we
don't care whether the part is repaired or replaced, as long as it solves
the
problem permanently.
=>
=> The general consensus of opinion among GTS owners is that the problem is
=> caused by corrosion of the HU components through moisture and/or air in
the
=> hydraulic fluid in spite of regular brake fluid replacement. Yamaha and
the
Skip this! Again, you are leaving the door open for the possibility that the
problem is due to owners not performing maintenance. Furthermore, I think
that
offering a diagnosis (which I _completely_ agree with, by the way) is a
distraction from the real issue--getting a permanent fix!
=> NHTSA have been advised of the situation.
=>
=> If you own a GTS you may want to check your ABS operation to avoid a
=> dangerous surprise. You can subscribe to the GTS list at ???????. ABS
=> failures can be reported to the list.
=>
=> **************************************************
=>
=>
=> Cheers Joe.
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=> -----Original Message-----
=> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
=> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 5:45 PM
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=> Subject: Re: RE: ABS issue - Yamaha's response
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=>
=> NHTSA is government, which means movement of glacial speeds makes them
=> dizzy.
=> A PR campaign with a magazine is actually a lower level approach and, if
=> effective, a better method. It's also something NHTSA will take note of
if
=> they receive a copy.
=>
=> So I still suggest the magazine route simultaneously or prior to NHTSA.
=> Aftward, there would be no point at all.
=>
=> Jay
=>
=> In a message dated 12/15/99 3:55:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
=>
=> >I think we should get the NHTSA involved first
=>
=>
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