Hi Phil,
        Yes I agree that just buying a hot F4 would give me a great fast 
bike.  That is not really my aim.  My dream-favorite armchair engineering 
excercise is desiging a wild Japanese Manga style feet forward m.c. For this
I think the GTS front end would be perfect and the VFR single sided swingarm
in back would look great.  So, I am talking about building a custom frame to 
mate these two pieces toghether anlong with what ever engine I decide to use.
Sound crazy?? Yes Sounds like a lot of work with a lot of money spent?? Oh 
yes...  But its an itch I have had for a long time and I want to scratch it as a 
hobby.
        Oh and on lightening the GTS front end.  It seems like such a 
common complaint that I was wondering if there were any 'common' ways
to reduce it??
                Daniel 
                SF CA

>Daniel,
>
>This has been round on the list before, but yes, the stock GTS is one
>heavy puppy, and no, the IoM racing version is not at all like the ones
>we all have in our garages.  Weight loss to that extent is not a matter of
>changing the wheels and exhaust system.
>
>The bigger issue--I've been known before to make the case that if you
>really want a hard-core sport bike, buy one.  I find that for normal
>street users, the GTS (in non-RR trim) is a great SPORT TOURER, and needs
>very little in the way of modifications.  On some level I'm glad to see
>someone try to make a racer out of the GTS, but it's best thought of as a
>curious experiment.  Starting with an R-1 or 929RR is an easier way to go
>endurance racing in the liter class.
>
>Your idea of a VFRGTS?  Talk to Alan Macias, he had one he built, some on
>the list have seen it.  It can be done.  Your idea is interesting, but for
>a lot less $ and less work and more parts availability and etc. etc. you
>can just BUY a stock CBR600F4 and go just as fast.
>
>My $1U.S. @ 2%.
>
>Phil
>

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