Now just hold on there Joerg.....not buying a BM'r is one thing ....but boycotting oktoberfest.....I can only go so far! For those that haven't been....it's the world best beerfest.....ahhhh the greasy cooked half chickens, 2liters of beer.....slab of roast ox.......ooopppps I just drooled on my keyboard...damn I hate it when that happens. Shawn P Heading to Drupa in Duesseldorf soon.....