Motul is the oil of france. it is almost impossible to find anything else
here.
Mike Coan
www.warmnsafe.com Home of the Heat-troller
www.ttg-global.com Motorcycle & Travel Site
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I have never used Motul, but it is very popular with many bikers. I always
wondered, is it a Japanese company ?
The thing about oils that most people do not know is that there are many
brands, but relatively few oil refiners/blenders:
-Amsoil does not actually make its own oils, they are made to its
specification under contract by another big company whose name escapes me.
Only a few companies can do synthetic. That company gots its start in
synthetic by working with the founder of Amsoil, using aviation synth oils
as a starting point.
-Belray does not make oil, and just remarkets another companies oil.
(Lubrimatic I think)
-Same for Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki etc.
-Spectro operates like Amsoil, contract manufacturer to its spec.
-Mobil 1 is made by Mobil, as are their other types
- house brands are normally made by only a few refiners/blenders. Normally
the though process is "Make me a 5w-30 that meets SH standards, and will
cost 49 cents a quart wholesale." House brand synthetics are usually made
by contract manufactures, and although better than dino juice, are not
nearly as good as Mobil 1 or Amsoil.
- Exxon makes it own oil, so does Texaco, dont know about Chevron.
- Castrol makes it own
- Quakerstate and Pennzoil make their own, but one of them is merging with
somebody else, I forget teh details. However, the synthetics are NOT made
by them in most cases, rather under contract. I am told they are ramping up
production though.
The only synthetic I trust is Amsoil and Mobil 1. I have not used Motul,
many swear by it. I have used Castrol Syntec 5w-50 in the past, and had
very bad experience with it eating seals in an Acura and a Dodge Caravan (at
the same time no less !).
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From: paramithas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:58 PM
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Subject: Re: AMSoil
I've used Motul over the years, a great-great product. AMSoil also a great
product, we are splitting hairs here folks.
Slick George
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From: uranus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:49 AM
Subject: RE: AMSoil
> At 09:23 03/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >Also, AMSOIL has lots
> >of other stuff that Mobil hasn't even thought of yet.
>
> About a year ago the AMSOIL rep here said that they had everyone covered
> except Motul - he said that Motul's "synthetic castor oil" technology was
> the only thing AMS couldn't then do but wished they could. If Motul 300v
> is not available locally, you won't go far wrong with AMS.
>
>
>
>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have never used Motul, but it is very popular with =
many bikers. I always wondered, is it a Japanese company ?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The thing about oils that most people do not know is =
that there are many brands, but relatively few oil =
refiners/blenders:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Amsoil does not actually make its own oils, they are =
made to its specification under contract by another big company whose =
name escapes me. Only a few companies can do synthetic. =
That company gots its start in synthetic by working with the founder of =
Amsoil, using aviation synth oils as a starting point.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Belray does not make oil, and just remarkets another =
companies oil. (Lubrimatic I think) </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Same for Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki etc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Spectro operates like Amsoil, contract manufacturer =
to its spec.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Mobil 1 is made by Mobil, as are their other =
types</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>- house brands are normally made by only a few =
refiners/blenders. Normally the though process is "Make me a =
5w-30 that meets SH standards, and will cost 49 cents a quart =
wholesale." House brand synthetics are usually made by =
contract manufactures, and although better than dino juice, are not =
nearly as good as Mobil 1 or Amsoil. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>- Exxon makes it own oil, so does Texaco, dont know =
about Chevron.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>- Castrol makes it own</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>- Quakerstate and Pennzoil make their own, but one =
of them is merging with somebody else, I forget teh details. =
However, the synthetics are NOT made by them in most cases, rather =
under contract. I am told they are ramping up production =
though.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2> The only synthetic I trust is Amsoil and Mobil =
1. I have not used Motul, many swear by it. I have used =
Castrol Syntec 5w-50 in the past, and had very bad experience with it =
eating seals in an Acura and a Dodge Caravan (at the same time no less =
!).</FONT></P>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: paramithas [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>=
]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:58 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: AMSoil</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I've used Motul over the years, a great-great =
product. AMSoil also a great</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>product, we are splitting hairs here folks.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Slick George</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: uranus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:49 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: AMSoil</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> At 09:23 03/10/00 -0400, you wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> >Also, AMSOIL has lots</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> >of other stuff that Mobil hasn't even =
thought of yet.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> About a year ago the AMSOIL rep here said that =
they had everyone covered</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> except Motul - he said that Motul's =
"synthetic castor oil" technology was</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> the only thing AMS couldn't then do but wished =
they could. If Motul 300v</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> is not available locally, you won't go far =
wrong with AMS.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> David Thurgate <A =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Kawasaki ZX750-A1 in Tony Foale HCS =
frame</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Current status: Dismantled!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Yamaha GTS1000a in Yamaha HCS frame</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Current status: Taxed and tested!</FONT>
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