Better to just please everybody, I guess, if there really are people who feel that strongly about it. Perhaps a public notice will be enough for this year, so we can do it more properly next year.
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 6:24 PM Ekaterina Gerasimova <kittykat3...@gmail.com> wrote: > The reason this has been brought up is because there were been > complaints in previous years from people who were contacted and did > not want to receive the mail. > > Coincidentally, the gender field is not being used for contacting > people this year as per the first email from Marina. I did not fill it > in and I have been contacted already. This sort of behaviour is what > polarises people over the issue. It doesn't help that the same email > has already been sent to gnome-women-list as well. > > On 4 August 2015 at 20:11, Christopher Svanefalk > <christopher.svanef...@gmail.com> wrote: > > IANAL, but the way I read the law regarding unsolicited email, it simply > > means you should not be sending existing or potential consumers any > > solicitation for commercial products or services. In this case we are > just > > sending a friendly notice that there will be a women's dinner, and a > pointer > > who to speak to. > > > > If you really want to get deep with it, I am sure we are already > violating > > 50-some other regulations already that we are not even aware of, anyway. > > This one is not really even a violation. > > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:55 PM Pascal Terjan <pter...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On 4 August 2015 at 17:44, Mattias Bengtsson > >> <mattias.jc.bengts...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On tis, 2015-08-04 at 14:23 +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya > >> >> <marina...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > Hi Alexandre, > >> >> > >> >> Hey, > >> >> > >> >> > Thank you for relating this. I think the downside of someone > >> >> > getting > >> >> > an invitation they are not interested in is relatively small, so > >> >> > it's > >> >> > probably not worth having a separate checkbox for opt in for an > >> >> > invitation. I know people prefer to keep the registration page > >> >> > short. > >> >> > >> >> That's because you're in a US-centric mindset. There's a difference > >> >> between the law in the US and in Europe: US is opt-out by default, > >> >> Europe is opt-in by default. > >> >> > >> >> European people see unsolicited contact as a very bad thing, and the > >> >> usual "Here's a piece of information about our thing, if you don't > >> >> want to hear from us again just unsubscribe using the link at the > >> >> bottom" is actually not ok. > >> > > >> > Oh come on! It's just an E-mail. It's not like anyone's getting > >> > unwanted phone calls, it's also directly related to an event you have > >> > signed up for. > >> > >> But is there a way to say we don't want to receive any email? > >> If not we can't use the address to send emails related to the conference > >> or not. > >> This is required by european law (at the time when the email is > >> collected, and again in each email). > >> > >> > >> > http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32002L0058:en:HTML > >> > >> > Also the thing about European vs American mindset... Neither Europeans > >> > nor US citizens are homogeneous groups. The opinions will surely > differ > >> > more between citizens inside a country or continent than the aggregate > >> > opinion will differ between continents and countries. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> guadec-list mailing list > >> guadec-list@gnome.org > >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list > > > > -- > > Best, > > > > Christopher Svanefalk > > > > Web: http://www.csvanefalk.com > > GitHub: https://github.com/csvan > > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/csvanefalk > > Cell: +46762628251 > > Skype: csvanefalk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > guadec-list mailing list > > guadec-list@gnome.org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list > > > _______________________________________________ > guadec-list mailing list > guadec-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list > -- Best, Christopher Svanefalk Web: http://www.csvanefalk.com GitHub: https://github.com/csvan LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/csvanefalk Cell: +46762628251 Skype: csvanefalk
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