On 12 April 2016 at 17:49, Benjamin Berg <benja...@sipsolutions.net> wrote:
> On Di, 2016-04-12 at 12:39 +0200, Lasse Schuirmann wrote:
>> Btw. can't you add a "Workshop" type of thing to the CfP system? One thing
>> to rule them all, would be easier...
>
> Yeah, it would be more consistent. I am not sure it would simplify
> matters a lot from an organizational point of view though. So right
> now, I doubt that it is worth the trouble.

I don't think it's a good idea for the moment. Workshops and talks are
quite different with different requirements in terms of things to
consider when picking out good ones and who is a good person to pick
them out.

> Benjamin
>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Lasse Schuirmann
>>
>> cont...@viperdev.io
>> http://viperdev.io/
>>
>> 2016-04-12 12:13 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Berg <benja...@sipsolutions.net>:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Di, 2016-04-12 at 11:45 +0200, Lasse Schuirmann wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I'd certainly still be interested but won't have the time to
>> > > coordinate
>> > > everything around this as always. GSoC's going crazy right now
>> > > and I'm
>> > > doing stuff for too many orgs here.
>> > >
>> > > I hope I can work out a few rough proposals, post them here and
>> > > let you
>> > > choose which you like so I can refine.
>> > OK, someone will need to make a couple of executive decisions
>> > though,
>> > as I won't be the person actually doing the workshops. :)
>> >
>> > >
>> > > I think a few questions are missing for the workshops IMO:
>> > >
>> > > - How long should the workshop take? (Half day, day, two days
>> > > possible?)
>> > It is planned for 1 full day right now (i.e. August 11th).
>> >
>> > >
>> > > - What should participants be able to do after the workshop.
>> > > (Helps
>> > setting
>> > >
>> > > expectations right and usually also helps planning very much.)
>> > >
>> > > Few organizational questiosn:
>> > >
>> > > - Do we have any idea about the target audience? Very important
>> > > for
>> > > workshop holders to know.
>> > I am totally fine with you deciding on the exact audience.
>> >
>> > Ideally, I think it would be nice to have something that targets
>> > (local)
>> > students who are interested in free software and hopefully GNOME.
>> > So my
>> > guess is that it makes sense to expect some prior knowledge, but
>> > not much
>> > actual experience (e.g. they know what git is, but have never send
>> > a patch
>> > upstream).
>> >
>> > >
>> > > - Will you be able to organize material locally? That usually
>> > > includes
>> > lots
>> > >
>> > > and lots of sticky notes and threeish pieces of custom printed
>> > > paper per
>> > > participant. A projector with a few adaptors.
>> > Sorry, I didn't forward that list to you. We will provide a seminar
>> > room with the following:
>> >  * projector
>> >  * blackboard
>> >  * WiFi and 1-2 LAN ports
>> >  * multiway power extensions (1 socket per person)
>> >  * chairs/tables
>> >
>> > Adaptors are on my todo list to check and ping later. Anything else
>> > should be requested so we can organize something.
>> >
>> > Didn't think about paper/sticky notes before, sounds sensible to
>> > include that for all workshops.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > - Are there tables, arrangeable for group work?
>> > Yes.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > - For longer workshops, at least some water would be nice to
>> > > prohibit
>> > > dehydration.
>> > Good point. Noted.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > - It'd be great to have a BoF related or accompanying every
>> > > workshop. A
>> > > very critical point is to get people to try out the stuff even
>> > > after the
>> > > actual workshop. Knowing a place where they can come and hack
>> > > *and ask*
>> > > would be awesome. IMO we should encourage workshoppers to
>> > > organize a BoF.
>> > Oh, that is a good idea and easy to implement.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > - Would be nice to have feedback sheets so we can measure the
>> > > success and
>> > > impact of the workshops. This is one big experiement so let's not
>> > > forget
>> > > gathering data.
>> > Interesting, thought. For whatever reason I hadn't considered that
>> > yet,
>> > even though I have done exactly the same thing for other events.
>> >
>> > Added it to my list. Biggest task is to figure out the questions to
>> > put
>> > on the sheets.
>> >
>> > Benjamin
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Sincerely,
>> > >
>> > > Lasse Schuirmann
>> > >
>> > > cont...@viperdev.io
>> > > http://viperdev.io/
>> > >
>> > > 2016-04-12 11:30 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Berg <benjamin@sipsolutions.n
>> > > et>:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Hey,
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mi, 2016-01-27 at 14:27 +0000, David King wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I have done some introductions to git and GNOME inspired
>> > Workflows,
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > maintaining projects properly in two universities
>> > > > > > > recently and
>> > people
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > seemed to like it. I could think of turning this into a
>> > > > > > > workshop
>> > if
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > there is demand.
>> > > > > > Yeah, something like a GIT and maybe FOSS basics workshop
>> > > > > > would be
>> > > > > > great to see!
>> > > > > I'd be happy to help plan and deliver these. I can only do
>> > > > > them in
>> > > > > English, so some German speakers might be good too (hi
>> > > > > Lasse!)
>> > > > are you two (Dave, Lasse) still interested?
>> > > >
>> > > > It would be great to have descriptions for the workshops up
>> > > > before
>> > > > registration starts. So if you are still up for it, then I
>> > > > would
>> > > > appreciate it if one of you could step up to coordinate the
>> > > > effort and
>> > > > decide more precisely what we can offer at GUADEC :)
>> > > >
>> > > > To be more specific, the information I am looking for is:
>> > > >  * Title of the workshop
>> > > >  * Short Description (for an overview page)
>> > > >  * Long Description (for detailed page)
>> > > >  * Expected prior knowledge
>> > > >  * Pre-Requisites for attendees (e.g. VM with certain packages)
>> > > >  * Minimum/Maximum number of Attendees
>> > > >  * Name of everyone giving the workshop
>> > > >  * Should your employer be listed as a sponsor?
>> > > >  * Will you need travel sponsorships?
>> > > >  * Optional: bio (+ image) for website
>> > > >
>> > > > Benjamin
>> > > >
>
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