Michael Carbone via guardian-dev:
On 4/29/21 10:26 AM, Nathan of Guardian wrote:

On 4/29/21 8:52 AM, Mark Murphy wrote:
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, at 08:47, Abel Luck wrote:
There was some discussion about this almost a year ago
https://lists.mayfirst.org/pipermail/guardian-dev/2020-June/thread.html

However no particular conclusions were reached other than "it sucks."
FWIW:

https://commonsware.com/blog/2020/09/23/uncomfortable-questions-app-signing.html

https://commonsware.com/blog/2020/11/30/initial-responses-uncomfortable-questions.html

The initial post definitely struck a nerve in the community -- a surprising number of developers took it upon themselves to pester Google developer relations members on the topic. However, after that late November post, I have not seen much on this subject coming out of

Mountain View. I suspect that I'll be writing another post, perhaps tomorrow, pointing out Google I|O sessions that might be of relevance on this subject.

Thanks for resharing these excellent posts, Mark.

"However, policies can change, at any time, for any reason, without warning. Or, as some guy in a dark helmet once said <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsW9MlYu31g>:

I am altering the deal. Pray I don’t alter it any further."


    I think it is time we speak up about this issue more, if only to get
    some more attention on F-Droid.


I am sharing within Access Now and we will ping EFF since they are likely better positioned to publicize and advocate on this topic.

It seems like this requirement to give Google your signing keys and use Android App Bundles is partly a push to lock developers into Google Play. I wonder if there are some people working on big tech monopolies that could also push on this?

There is also another important choice we can push here: real, FOSS, privacy respecting options like CalyxOS. Calyx has made huge strides in making Google-free Android usable and secure. And CalyxOS of course builds on key projects that we know and love, like F-Droid, microG, Tor, and more. And key apps like Telegram, Tutanota, are available from f-droid.org.

Also, it is important to ensure that APKs remain a viable distribution method since they are easy to redistribute, and that keeps the Android ecosystem much more flexible than iOS.

.hc

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