> On Jul 23, 2022, at 10:41 AM, Greg Troxel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think the main point is to have a design and validation that will
> cause the app to work right whenever the UI part is successfully
> running.  That probably means the ability of the app to check if tor is
> functional, and to maybe tear it down and launch it if not.   I don't
> know how process/thread affects that.

100% agree on this. This is what Hans has been pushing for with his 
implementation of tor-android/TorService. The idea is to have a very quick 
bootstrap, so that tor is ready when you need it, and not something you need to 
have running all of the time. I know the Arti/rust tor is also moving in this 
direction.

> 
> I'm really unclear on how Android treats multiple processes from the
> same apk (and thus with the same UID ).

This is also a question I don’t have a great answer to. I don’t know if heap 
usage is tracked per process or per app.

> 
> 
> It's interesting that you asked this today.  I was just about to write
> here and say that I've been having trouble with Orbot, and I think that
> trouble is exactly on point.

New release coming… but not sure if it will fix your issue. Happy to try to 
reproduce on a device we have.

> 
> So orbot is getting into a bad state, and I haven't yet tried to capture
> on adb, but this is the sort of thing that would be good to detect and
> restart automatically.


Okay.

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