On 23 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> first off, running httpd as root is not a good idea.  it is bad enough
> that it has to be started as root in order to bind() to a low port
> number and then switch to a different userid.

ok.. ok... logically I must yield on this one... you are right..  I guess
I am too trusting at times and would rather see something up and working
before fool-proofing[1] it.

> it should run as a different user than root AND a different user than
> the httpd it is supposed to configure.  if it runs as root it's just a
> question of time before someone severely compromises the machine.  (I
> know, I have cleaned up after several disasters of that flavor.)
> 
> the configuration server should under no circumstances run as root.

ok.. I agree..

> the tasks you need to perform as root should be contained within
> separate programs suid that do _nothing_ else than, start, stop, or
> restart the server.

ahh.... sounds simple and easy enough..

> right now I am under the impression that we are still brainstorming,
> trying to come up with ideas of what might be a good solution or a
> good set of solutions.  I don't think we should dismiss every idea
> that doesn't "fit the bill".
> 
> on one hand we have my wishes, which are a tad baroque, and on the
> other hand we have something that can be crufted together in a couple
> of days.
> 
> let's hear some more ideas first before we decide on anything.

I guess I am still very angry at PC mag for making apache configuration
look like it practially requires knowledge of X86 assembly code, just
because it doesnt have a GUI..  the fast we get a gui out there, the less
the media can Dis apache.


-Matt

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