> > There is something here: > > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix
[...] > I was thrilled to see a wiki link on the homepage and disgusted to > see that it didn't actually foster community. In fact, there's > strife immediately within the "community" wiki, the simple fact it > exists, let alone what it says. I think it would be better to have > nothing linked from the homepage because 1) the current wiki is > useless and 2) linking endorses what's there, including how it > appears hostile to community. FWIW, i had a similar experience when i came to Guix a few months ago: i was thrilled that there was a wiki, and then i quickly got disappointed that it's some shared something with little content (which means that e.g. searching will bring up all kinds of unrelated matches, etc). i looked for the wiki because i wanted to add something useful to it that i was searching for way too long, but then i ended up getting dismayed and dropped the idea. sending a patch to the manual is a way higher threshold than editing a wiki, especially when it's someone's first contribution. and some random, half-baked copy-paste doesn't belong in the manual, while it may be very useful when found in a wiki using the search engine. also note that i'm programming since i was a child, 30+ years now. at least half of it was part of opensource projects, and yet i had quite a learning curve getting to the point of submitting patches with any level of confidence (but not yet comfort). emails + debbugs + emacs + double-spaces + whatnot are all a cultural thing, and not necessarily simple for aliens, not at all. if you want, i can get into the details. note that i'm not necessarily arguing for a wiki here, i understand the concerns. i just want to draw attention that contributing to Guix, and especially to the manual by a non-coder, is not at all as simple as i see repeatedly expressed. -- • attila lendvai • PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- Copying is not theft, and coercively excluding other humans from using knowledge is evil.