Maxim Cournoyer <[email protected]> writes:

Hi Vagrant,

Vagrant Cascadian <[email protected]> writes:

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* A serious concern is what blocks consensus, not the person

Agreed. And I believe there should be no discussions after the final "deliberation" phase is done, which puts the focus on the disapproving individuals and often ask of them to explain again their rationale for doing so, while the process should have made that clear earlier already.

It is way too easy to point to the person raising a blocking concern, but that is absolutely the worst thing you can do to build consensus.

It should be focused on the issues raised as something to cooperatively
resolve, not the individual personalities involved.

To this end, I would like to propose that concerns are (eventually) raised as pull requests, patches or issues in some formalized process.

Not exactly replying to the above, but related: GCDs should perhaps be
*encouraged* to be mostly about technical matters?

I hope you mean instead that GCDs should be *actionable*. Many decisions --- even about technical matters --- require establishment of political will as the basis upon which action is taken. It is, for example, a non-technical choice to what degree we uphold the ideal of reproducibility, and that commitment informs technical decisions, which then follow in an obvious fashion. That non-technical choice is rooted in the philosophy of science and only has pale, imperfect representations in the various technical substrates.

It would be terribly myopic to deliberately ignore the context in which technical choices are decided, just because that context itself is not amenable to decisions in purely technical terms. It would be discouraging the recognition of forests, recommending instead to see just an individual tree.

That said, I agree with Vagrant's recommendation that concerns be raised as pull requests, patches, or issues. This make them trivial to track, and the former two of the three options are obviously constructive contributions, which is what GCD1 required for valid objections.

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Ricardo

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