Rupert answered to Henry:
> > Does the 1897 USS Holland count as TL6?
> 
> Clearly, seeing as diesel engines are TL6, and they pre-date the
> Holland. :)

I haven't tried it yet, but I'd probably peg her at 
late TL5. Effects: 

* Engines, batteries, etc. are less efficient than 
  those in WWI boats, much less WWII boats. Check. 

* For the same weight, I get less hull strength, 
  hence less general ruggedness and maximum depth. 
  Check. 

* I might be forced to take more expensive hull and
  armor materials anyway, which inflates the listed
  price. Since VE underestimates the pricetag of 
  prototypes (and since 1897 had nearly 1900s labor
  costs), that might be another check. 

When in doubt, chose the TL so that the design FEELS 
right.

Onno
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