I have played GURPS for years and have always played that bow weapons have their own streagnth. If you check the rules it is not clearly stated, but it makes no sense that all bows are the same.
if I find a 2 bows and I give one to you then if they are the same basic bow they should do the same basic damage. if they are different then they should do different damage. The rules are clear on what happens if you do not have the streangth to use a bow, so it seemed to me that every bow has its own streangth. I would recomend trying it out and seeing it you like the way it works. I find it to be very realistic,a nd not to muchmore bookkeeping. It also allows higherstreangth players to have custom weapons made that only they can use. Think of Homer's Illiad...and that KICK ass bow that only he could string and fire.... :) that is what it lets you do..... just a thought MPK --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send GurpsNet-L mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://mail.sjgames.com/mailman/listinfo/gurpsnet-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of GurpsNet-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. i'm at it again (Eric Funk) > 2. [VEHICLE] of the week 592 - GURPS Traveller > TL9 Ambulance > (Eric Funk) > 3. gurps question ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 4. Re: gurps question (Bay Grabowski) > 5. naomi (Mike Brown) > 6. Re: gurps question (Zan Lynx) > 7. RE: gurps question (HR Mitchell) > 8. Re: naomi (Chris J. Whitcomb) > 9. OT : Request - Hard Sci-Fi with fleet action > (Russ Jennings) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:27:21 -0600 > From: Eric Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [gurps] i'm at it again > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset=Windows-1252; > reply-type=original > > >Cyborgs in Ghost in the Shell. Vehicles seems too > cumbersome for > >practical use at this scale. > > Perhaps it would have been simpler to start with > ROBOTS' example of Synthia, > and simply note the differences? (e.g. the brain). > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:29:03 -0600 > From: Eric Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [gurps] [VEHICLE] of the week 592 - GURPS > Traveller TL9 > Ambulance > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset=Windows-1252; > reply-type=original > > > gSpeed: 80 gAccel: 4 gDecel: 15 gMR: 0.5 > gSR: 3 > > Ground Pressure High. Off-Road Speed 1/6. > > > Design Notes > > Body is 228 cf. Wheels are 12 cf (increased > volume). Structure is > > Since it already has High GP, I wonder why > "increased volume" wheels. For > indoor use only, I would have used smaller than > normal wheels... > > Your thoughts on this? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:52:46 -0600 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [gurps] gurps question > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey, > > > > I just GMed my first gurps game this Sunday! Were > playing a home-grown > dark fantasy game. > > > > Ive been GMing for a while now (D&D and > WOD/Storyteller system mostly) and > so far I like the flexibility of GURPS 4th edition. > I had a few quick > questions though. I hope someone can help me. > > > > * On some weapons, like broadswords, the Basic Rules > have damages for > both thrusting and swinging damage. For example, on > page 274 of the Basic > Rules, it shows a Greatsword as sw+3 cut reach 1,2 > OR thr+2 cr reach 2. A > similar situation is found with the Katana which > does sw+2 cut reach 1,2 or > thr+2 imp 1. Does this mean the player can use > either attach with that > weapon, but has the damage multiplier and reach > specific only to that > attack? So if he uses the thrusting attack with the > greatsword, it only > does crushing damage (no multiplier if I remember) > and can only reach 2 > yards away. If this is the case, why ever use > anything but the > swinging/cutting attack and damage with a > greatsword? > * Do players ever roll for initiative like in > other games? If not, > do all actions happen at the same time or can you > kill off an enemy before > he gets to attack because your basic speed let you > go first? > * On muscle powered weapons such as bows and > crossbows. Is it true > that the bow or crossbow has its own strength, > rather than use the strength > of the character who is wielding it? So if a > character happens to find a > bow that is STR 10 he only uses that strength > level for damage rolls, even > though his actual characters strength might be 15? > * In the clerical magic system, do clerics use up > fatigue points? > Also, since they have no pre-requisites for their > spells, whats to stop > them from just learning the powerful spells only and > skipping the basic ones > (other than the deity or GM intervening)? > > > > Im sure Ill have more questions later. The GURPS > system seems simpler > that AD&D 2nd Ed. but more complicated than > storyteller. However I was > really impressed with the characters my players > made, because it let them > customize the characters and break outside of the > cliché D&D classes of > fighter, ranger, rogue, cleric, wizard, etc. > > > > Thanks, > > Craig > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/270 - > Release Date: 2/27/2006 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:08:06 -0800 > From: Bay Grabowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [gurps] gurps question > To: The GURPSnet mailing list > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I play 3rd edition, but this what I think the rules > are: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hey, > > > > > > > > I just GM?ed my first gurps game this Sunday! > We?re playing a home-grown > > dark fantasy game. > > > > > > > > I?ve been GMing for a while now (D&D and > WOD/Storyteller system mostly) and > > so far I like the flexibility of GURPS 4th > edition. I had a few quick > > questions though. I hope someone can help me. > > > > > > > > * On some weapons, like broadswords, the Basic > Rules have damages for > > both thrusting and swinging damage. For example, > on page 274 of the Basic > > Rules, it shows a Greatsword as sw+3 cut reach 1,2 > OR thr+2 cr reach 2. A > > similar situation is found with the Katana which > does sw+2 cut reach 1,2 or > > thr+2 imp 1. Does this mean the player can use > either attach with that > > weapon, but has the damage multiplier and reach > specific only to that > > attack? So if he uses the thrusting attack with > the greatsword, it only > > does crushing damage (no multiplier if I remember) > and can only reach 2 > > yards away. If this is the case, why ever use > anything but the > > swinging/cutting attack and damage with a > greatsword? > > Yup, they get a choice. There wouldn't be any real > reason to thrust with > a great sword, but several other swords do impaling > damge when thrust > and cutting damage when swung. A play would use the > swinging attack > (which does more base damage) against armored > opponents and the > thrusting attack (with a greater damage multiplier) > against unarmored > opponents. > > > * Do players ever ?roll for initiative? like in > other games? If not, > > do all actions happen at the same time or can you > kill off an enemy before > > he gets to attack because your basic speed let you > go first? > > In 3rd edition, there were two ways to determine > initiative (I think) > you could either roll for initiative or determine > initiative by speed alone. > > > * On muscle powered weapons such as bows and > crossbows. Is it true > > that the bow or crossbow has its own strength, > rather than use the strength > > of the character who is wielding it? So if a > character happens to find a > > bow that is ?STR 10? he only uses that strength > level for damage rolls, even > > though his actual character?s strength might be > 15? > > I believe this only applies to crossbows, which > makes sense if you think > about it, a bow is powered by tension provided by > the user (so it uses > the user's ST), while a crossbow is powered by > tension being held by the > bow itself. Your strong character would do the same > damage, but he > probably could reload faster. > > > * In the clerical magic system, do clerics use up > fatigue points? > > Also, since they have no pre-requisites for their > spells, what?s to stop > > them from just learning the powerful spells only > and skipping the basic ones > > (other than the deity or GM intervening)? > > I dunno about this one, never had clerical magic in > any of my campaigns... > > > > > > > > > I?m sure I?ll have more questions later. The > GURPS system seems simpler > > that AD&D 2nd Ed. but more complicated than > storyteller. However I was > > really impressed with the characters my players > made, because it let them > > customize the characters and break outside of the > cliché? D&D classes of > > fighter, ranger, rogue, cleric, wizard, etc. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Craig > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - > http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFEA7CFpCY9FhclFk4RAp+sAJ47VQI0N7QSs1cLgNKsTyyaaQnVZACeJaoe > TuSYqWdcxQ6HTrNWpwJ+l90= > =o121 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:23:06 -0600 > From: "Mike Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [gurps] naomi > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > I use robots accutaly. and she's not form gits. > She's from armitage > polymatirx > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:23:33 -0700 > From: Zan Lynx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [gurps] gurps question > To: The GURPSnet mailing list > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > * Do players ever roll for initiative like in > other games? If not, > > do all actions happen at the same time or can you > kill off an enemy before > > he gets to attack because your basic speed let you > go first? > You don't roll for initiative in GURPS, but there is > surprise. There is > rarely a case when both groups of combatants are > surprised. Both can see > the other group on an open field. In a forest, one > group would probably > hear the other group first. In a dungeon crawl, same > thing. Rarely, both > can be surprised, like if two spies were sneaking > around the same > building and ran into each other around a corner. > > If there's a chance that one group can hear the > other one or see them > first, it is a contest of skills between Stealth vs. > Hearing or Sight or > Camouflage vs Sight. Then, if the group that spotted > the other group > wants to surprise them, they have to try their > Stealth or Camouflage > skills. Standing still while the other group comes > toward them would be > a bonus for this of course. If they fail Stealth > then both groups know > about the other. > > If one or both groups are Surprised, then they have > Mental Stun. There's > rules for it in the book. The un-stunned group has a > HUGE advantage, in > my opinion. This is where Combat Reflexes come in > *really* handy. > > Stealth is really great for monsters. Cats hide in > trees or stalk their > prey silently. Giant spiders hide on dark ceilings > and silently drop on > their victims. Wolves can be pretty darn sneaky. > > Barbarian Orcs, not so much. They're more like the > scream and leap and > hope the yelling and stench stun their victims. > Wait, that goes for > Barbarian PCs too. :-) I think that might be some > kind of Intimidation > skill contest. > > Having the surprise works like having initiative in > D&D. The stunned > fighters can't do much until they roll out of their > stun, by which time > the Ninja Catgirls have knocked them all unconscious > and tied them up to > drag off to their Evil Overlord's easily escaped > prison. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:58:58 -0800 > From: "HR Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [gurps] gurps question > To: "'The GURPSnet mailing list'" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > * On muscle powered weapons such as bows and > crossbows. > > Is it true > > that the bow or crossbow has its own strength, > rather than use the > > strength of the character who is wielding it? So > if a character > > happens to find a bow that is ?STR 10? he only > uses that strength > > level for damage rolls, even though his actual > character?s > > strength might be 15? > > The strength listed for bows, etc., is the minimum > strength of the character > needed to use it. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:16:22 -0600 > From: "Chris J. Whitcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [gurps] naomi > To: "The GURPSnet mailing list" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > > From: "Mike Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I use robots accutaly. and she's not form gits. > She's from armitage > > polymatirx > > You mean Armitage the Third. Armitage Polymatrix > was the highly chopped up > version where they took a 4 episode series and > mashed it into one hour and a > half movie. The original series was much better. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:28:58 -0600 > From: Russ Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [gurps] OT : Request - Hard Sci-Fi with > fleet action > To: The GURPSnet mailing list > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > I know there's some big Sc-fi buffs on this list. > I'd like to read some > good novels that have some hard science behind them, > and feature lots of > fleet combat, or at least big capitol ships. I'm > just now diving into > the Honor Harrington series, and it seems to be > petty good for now. I'd > like any other recommendations, tho, for books and > series in the same > vein. > > If this is too OT for the list, feel free to email > me off list. > > Thanks, > > Russ > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > GurpsNet-L mailing list <[email protected]> > http://mail.sjgames.com/mailman/listinfo/gurpsnet-l > > End of GurpsNet-L Digest, Vol 32, Issue 12 > ****************************************** > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ GurpsNet-L mailing list <[email protected]> http://mail.sjgames.com/mailman/listinfo/gurpsnet-l
