Hi Suelyman,
It is true that you cannot hear tag info, such as the plot description on
the BookSense. However, you do have a lot more flexibility in terms of
folder structure in both the media player (for playing audiobooks, music,
podcasts, etc.), and in the DAISY folder. As far as I know, the hierarchy
is
virtually limitless. For example, by default, the DAISY folder already has
subfolders for NLS books, Bookshare books, and Newsline items. You could
create additional subfolders, as needed. You can even play the entire
contents of a folder by highlighting it with the arrows and pressing Play,
similar to the temporary playlist feature in the Stream except that it
applies everywhere.
Cheryl
Be joyful always, pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
NIV
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From: "Suleyman Gokyigit" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:37 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Questions from a Perspective Buyer
Sandy,
Glad it worked for you. Something else interesting to note is that the
VictorReader announces the tag info for Audible books, which includes a
full
plot description and summary of the book as written by the publisher. It
looks like based on what is reported by the Booksense that it does not
report this information.
Also, does anyone know if the Booksense will let you create a folder
structure for Audible books? This is something the VictorReader will not
let you do, and it is something I think would be a great feature. For
example, under the Audiobooks folder, let's say that you create an Audible
folder. Then under the Audible folder, you have folders for different
authors. Then inside these folders, you have further folders for each
book.
Finally inside each of these folders for books you have the multi-part
Audible files that make up the book...If you do this, does the Booksense
let
you fully traverse the folder structure? Unfortunately with the Victor,
all
the files must be placed in the $VRAudible folder, and you cannot assign
any
hierarchy to them.
Further to the above question, can one do this with DAISY books as well?
Again, the VictorReader does not observe any folder structure; while it
will
let you create multiple hierarchies for DAISY books, the interface does
not
present them as such; it presents a flat list of books, which can get
annoying if you have hundreds of books. Again, it would be a lot nicer to
be able to traverse the folder structure, so one can have \DAISY, then
\bookshare under that, then a list of authors, then a list of books under
those author folders... Again, does the Booksense let you do this?
I know it will observe folder hierarchies for the music folder, but what
about for Audible and for DAISY books?
Many thanks to everyone for putting up with all my questions!
Suleyman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Questions from a Perspective Buyer
I am pleasantly surprised. If while playing an Audible book you just
press the zero, the time both elapsed and remaining will be
announced! I am glad I was wrong about that.
At 11:09 AM 11/9/2009 -0800, you wrote:
Sandy,
Based on what I have seen in podcasts and what Cheryl has said here, the
way
to get the total time for an Audible book is not to press and hold 0 for
two
seconds but to simply hit the 0 key, as in press and release. Can you try
this and see if it reports the total time? I'd love to hear if it works
for
you.
Thanks,
Suleyman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Questions from a Perspective Buyer
What you get when you are listening to
Audible books, when holding down the zero key for 2 seconds on the
BookSense Standard is: title, then arrowing down: artist, album, and
then narrator. That is all. If someone is getting the time, please
tell me how you are doing it.
At 07:46 AM 11/9/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>Cheryl,
>
>Many thanks for the detailed and thorough response. So given you have
>confirmed that pressing 0 during an Audible book announces the total
>time,
>and likewise pressing long 0 during an NLS book does the same, it is
>possible to find elapsed time and total time for both types of books.
>So
>this means that the users that were saying it is not possible to learn
>total
>time yesterday were then mistaken?
>
>For example, Rod Gowen said yesterday:
>
>"When playing a media file, MP3 or other, pressing the zero key will
>tell
>you not only the title of the file and the elapsed time, but also the
>total
>time, the track number of the file in the current folder and the current
>mode of the player, I.E. pause."
>
>Sandy Licht then responded:
>
>"Not with Audible books."
>
>RS_Denis then said:
>
>"With a media file playing, pressing the zero once quickly will give you
>the
>elapsed time but there is no way that I could see of getting the total
>time.
>This may be because in media files, the sampling and bit rates may
>differ
>making total time unpredictable to the machine."
>
>Missy Hoppe then confirmed:
>
>"same here. it doesn't do that with audible or mp3 files that I noticed.
>I
>wish it did."
>
>Given what all the above have said and that it didn't match up with all
>the
>podcasts I had listened to, this is why I was confused. :) So in
>conclusion, it would appear these users are incorrect?
>
>
>Suleyman
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Cheryl Lenartiene" <[email protected]>
>To: "Suleyman Gokyigit" <[email protected]>;
><[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Questions from a Perspective Buyer
>
>
>Dear Suleyman,
>
>Yes, when you play an Audible book or any audio file and you press the 0
>key, it will announce the elapsed time and the total time automatically.
>When you play an NLS book, pressing 0 announces the current heading and
>time
>elapsed. However, ifyou press and hold 0, you'll access the DAISY info
>dialog, which contains the total number of bookmarksyou have set, your
>current heading and the total number of headings, the length of the book
>in
>hours and minutes, the time elapsed, and the time remaining.
>
>As to your speed question, the current maximum speed is level four,
>which
>is
>2 times normal speed. I have compared the Victor and the BookSense side
>by
>side using the same book, and speed 4 on the BookSense is right between
>speeds 4 and 5 on the Victor, meaning that speed 4 on the BookSense is
>slightly faster than speed 4 on the Victor, but not as fast as speed 5.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Cheryl
>
>
>Be joyful always, pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances,
>for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
>1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
>NIV
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Suleyman Gokyigit" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:08 AM
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [GW-Booksense] Questions from a Perspective Buyer
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>I am a current VictorReader Stream user and am looking at purchasing a
>Booksense; however, I have two questions (I will probably have more in
>the
>future) that I cannot seem to find definite answers for.
>
>First, I just saw today some discussions on this mailing list regarding
>the
>information that is presented when pressing the 0 key while playing a
>file.
>Specifically, it was stated by several users that when listening to an
>Audible file, pressing the 0 key does not tell you the total time of the
>file. I wanted to get confirmation on this because while listening to
>multiple demos and podcasts of the Booksense, the 0 key always presented
>the
>total time of an Audible file (I just went back and checked a couple
>podcasts to confirm). So when I saw users saying that it is not
>reported,
>this is giving me pause, as this is very important information, and I am
>wondering what has changed to suddenly make the unit not report this
>information.
>
>Second, I have read that the Booksense does not speed up audio files up
>as
>much as the Victor (I am referring to recorded books such as Audible or
>NLS,
>not TTS here), but I have not seen any information regarding exactly how
>much faster the Booksense can play the file. I am aware it can increase
>up
>to 4 levels (+1, +2, +3, and +4), but this is not very meaningful since
>it
>does not indicate how fast each of these settings are. Does it speed up
>by
>25%? 50%? 100%? Specifically, I like to listen to podcasts and other
>audio at exactly double (2x) normal speed. Can the Booksense play this
>fast? I know the Victor can go faster than even 2x, but I don't need it
>to
>be that fast, but if the Booksense cannot speed up to at least 2x, I
>will
>not be purchasing it.
>
>Many thanks for anyone who is willing to address the above two
>questions.
>
>
>Suleyman
>
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Turn right, then go straight!
Jeremiah 29:11-14 (Amplified Bible)
11For I know the thoughts and plans that I have for you, says the
Lord, thoughts and plans for welfare and peace and not for evil, to
give you hope in your final outcome.
12Then you will call upon Me, and you will come and pray to Me,
and I will hear and heed you.
13Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require Me [as a vital
necessity] and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.(A)
14I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will release you
from captivity and gather you from all the nations and all the places
to which I have driven you, says the Lord, and I will bring you back
to the place from which I caused you to be carried away captive.
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Turn right, then go straight!
Jeremiah 29:11-14 (Amplified Bible)
11For I know the thoughts and plans that I have for you, says the
Lord, thoughts and plans for welfare and peace and not for evil, to
give you hope in your final outcome.
12Then you will call upon Me, and you will come and pray to Me,
and I will hear and heed you.
13Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require Me [as a vital
necessity] and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.(A)
14I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will release you
from captivity and gather you from all the nations and all the places
to which I have driven you, says the Lord, and I will bring you back
to the place from which I caused you to be carried away captive.
If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender
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