I could do that with this system, it's anice roomy tower and I've got 3 drives in it now and 2 burners.

At 11:20 AM 10/1/2008, you wrote:
no. i am useing mobile racks. you don't mess with the cables at all after
they have been connected to the drawer of the 5.25" drawer insert. you need
two empty drive bayss for my setup.
the vipower mobil racks cost about $20 each.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "gw-info-gwmicro.com" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: back up software


Oh sure, but I don't like to be switching those sata cables a lot, they're
fragile and only good for about 50 plugs they say.

Why did we get such junky connectors on such a fast pipe?

But it's good you have that redundancy.

I put my images a couple different places too.

Now I'd be interested to hear about any modern mobos with serial ports.

The one I have, a high end gigabyte had the pin-outs for one, and when
they hooked it up at the place I bought it from, sonica labs, it worked
fine with a mouse and such, but it won't work with the tripple talk.

I don't know if the voltages are different on these new mobos or something
different about the pins, the irq was right, but it made it to where the
tripple talk wouldn't even voice it's tripple talk ready.

So I do miss my speech in dos to tech with.

Gonna have to find some other ways of doing things interactively.



At 04:56 AM 10/1/2008, you wrote:
your half right.
image for windows will restore from windows if you have two removeable
drives you can swap out.
i use casper to clone drive c to the backup drive. on the second partition
on the backup drive i have the image for windows image files. i can just
switch the drives , boot from the backup drive and restore the c drive.
i have two backups. the cloned drive that i can boot   from and the image
files which i could use with windows or from a floppy and dos. so i have 3
ways i can restore the c drive.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "gw-info-gwmicro.com" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:49 AM
Subject: RE: back up software


        Sure, and I'll make it public to help others.

Image for windows backs up both in windows and dos, but only restores in
dos.

Much as some would have us believe dos is dead, for this kind of
software, it is not, although a small linux kernel is popular in some
software.

But this all happens under the hood so you generally don't have to mess
with it unless you want to.

But I have made many bootable cds and dvds, backed up to hard-disks, and
external drives, and this thing will also do networked drives and such
though i haven't done it yet.

Since my spanking new 3 gig core duo powerhose doesn't have a serial port
onboard, I have had to resort to the command line and booting with a
floppy to restore images off another partition with no speech, and it's
quicker than doing a dvd or cd.

There are some cases where the boot image that is on your back-up set
doesn't have the right driver for some of the new sata burners, and you
might have to do some mods, but for the most part, you should be good to
go by just running the software and it makes bootable media by default.

Then if you need to just boot your system and feed it disks when it asks
for them, I think it asks for the last disk first, and then spits it out
and asks for the first one, and you'll know because if you didn't give it
the right disk it'll spit it out and not accept it till you give it the
right one.

I've done custom boot disk integrating vocal-eyes and running custom
drivers to boot usb burners and such too.

So you can get a simple or complex as you want to be with it.

There's lots of docs on the site and they mostly decrypt ok, but pdf is a
pain in the butt no matter how you slice it.

But tech support isn't bad the few times I've asked them a question.

We really need speech to get access to more low level functions, for sys
prep oriented tasks.

On new machines that don't have serial support, and no speech drivers for
usb at that level or sound card support, it makes it challenging.

You can always do an unattended windows install, but this doesn't cover
custom partitioning, and testing.

Guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and learn a little linux
hacking.

Because we don't really have true accessibility if we only have access to
the top levels of the os.

maybe gw could be persuaded to help out some in this regard, a small
linux distro with some generic sound card driver support, even if it was
for popular generic usb devices like the edirol ua1 because the terabyte
software works with dos windows and linux.

This would give us a completely controlable way to interact with our
backup software.

How bout it guys, any interest?

This is important since vocal-eyes is becoming no longer an option on new
machines.

it'd be imensely helpful to get a talking command prompt just to know
where my drive letters were in dos, or to execute a command to partition
or format a new drive, or even clean out a virus.


At 09:15 AM 9/30/2008, you wrote:
Hi Chris.  I have Image for Windows/DOS here.  Have you been able to
make a
backup image on CD that you can restore automatically with a batch file
or
something like that?  I'd really like to know how this is done and would
appreciate any hints or help you can give me.

Thanks.

        Mary Anne



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