Hi I am speaking of someone with no use of the keyboard. That is not mean either. how-ever I put away my keyboard for a time after setting things up with window-eyes, and I was able to do everything buy voice using window-eyes. This includes restarting my computer shutting it down working in word in skype etc. while I agree that adding these scripts is a nice idea I object to the idea that we must have them. Also as I said if you set the window-eyes layout you can then have window-eyes commands be voice commands. I did not bother with this. I just used press and then the name of the keyboard command I wanted. I don't have window-eyes reading as I dictate I generally tell it to read the paragraph when it is done control-p does the job here for that. So the user just needs to get to know his keyboard layout and the dragon voice commands.
-----Original Message----- From: Edward Marquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:10 PM To: jim grimsby Jr. Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: Window Eyes and Naturally Speaking Jim: I don't doubt you can accomplish much with Window-Eyes and Naturally Speaking, but for someone who has no use of the keyboard (That's not me. I'm speaking about the subject of the message), the kinds of script-based functionality would be helpful. For example, J-SAY plays the sound of a shutting door when the microphone goes to sleep. It has commands to move and move down by a number of lines or items. It has commands to move to the next heading, next table, next revision, and so on. With scripts, Window-Eyes could do all of the above, and I think it will in time. If the referenced client needs those kinds of convenience factors, including the ability to shut down the computer by voice command, then the client had better get J-SAY or wait for someone to write some cute scripts for Window-Eyes to do the same thing. Also, I haven't figured out how to get Window-Eyes to speak the words as dictated. I have to force the read-back with a speak command, usually issued from the keyboard. wor -----Original Message----- >From: "jim grimsby Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Nov 24, 2008 11:02 AM >To: 'Edward Marquette' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Window Eyes and Naturally Speaking > >Hello Ed. >I can interact with Dragon and window-eyes with absolutely no keyboarding >intervention. So I find it interesting that you recommend that a person uses >j-say . If they lose all keyboard ability. >Interacting with window-eyes is simply a matter of changing the window-eyes >keyboard layout, and instructing Dragon which keyboard commands you wish to >press. for example you could say press control l to read the current line. >You can also use the command editor to create your own command. So read >current line would then issue the control l command. > if you cannot use the keyboard, to turn on, and off the microphone. you can > simply set Dragon NaturallySpeaking up to automatically have the microphone > turned on and asleep. Then you would say wake up and begin dictation. When > you want it to sleep. You would then just say go to sleep. Then Dragon will > stop listening to you. I should add here that I still have full use of the > keyboard . However, these are the steps you can take if you do not. >I hope this is helpful. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Edward Marquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:31 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Window Eyes and Naturally Speaking > > >Terese: >Good to hear from a neighbor. >Window-Eyes does work with Naturally Speaking 9.0; however, some continued >keyboard interaction will be required. I mention version 9 because that's >what I have. Version 10 was released recently, but I haven't tried it. >I have JAWS and J-SAY Pro too. Actually, I should say I did have them, but >have since unloaded them. I suppose in a home, single computer environment >J-SAY might be fine, but its klunky copy-protection scheme never permitted me >to install it fully in my office environment, and it takes hours and hours to >do. Plus, it messed up JAWS for me, or at least I thought so. >The only thing one gains with J-SAY, which has to work with JAWS, is total >interface, which is quite a bit if keyboard interaction is impossible. >Even then, now that Window-Eyes supports scripts I would be surprised if a >WE-SAY or the like doesn't appear on the market soon. J-SAY is primarily an >extensive set of scripts anyway. >For the present, if some keyboard functionality remains for your client, I >would give Naturally Speaking a try. The complex training required in the >earlier versions of Naturally Speaking is no longer required. I never trained >version 9 at all, and version 10 is supposed to be even better. >There are some settings inside Naturally Speaking that you will need, but >after that, Window-Eyes and Naturally Speaking get along pretty nicely. >I don't think you risk much by trying it anyway. If your client does get to >the point where keyboard interaction is impossible, you can switch to J-SAY. >You used to be given a credit when you buy J-SAY if you already own a license >for Naturally Speaking, and that is probably still the case. Who knows? By >then, WE-SAY (I made up that name) may exist. >The most important Naturally Speaking setting is to put Naturally Speaking in >the sys-tray. >I am sure there are many far more accomplished in the interface between >Naturally Speaking and Window-Eyes than am I. >I've just been too busy to focus on it. >Hope this helps. >Ed Marquette >Kansas City, MO >816.460.2405 Office >816.561.7111 Home >816.812.0088 Cell > > >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >sender only. 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