I'll second that one. I'd sure like to be able to turn on a mode and use my trackpad to navigate, much easier in some situations than dragging out a bluetooth keypad and getting it going.

Of course, if I could just stop the speech pauses and sometimes crashes in windows 7, I'd be happy for a good while. Anymore I'll hit one where I have to shut down and I just go do something else, I've had enough. I've been waiting on some better behavior on the internet for over a year, and I sure hope it isn't for nothing.




On 1/28/2011 07:53, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi, could you please tell me how long you did use the IPhone?  It takes days or 
weeks of use to get comfortable with the thing.  If you played with one for an 
hour you haven't done it justice.  There isn't a tactile point of reference on 
the IPhone, but all of the objects are in the same places all the time.  That 
makes it very easy to find the things you use most.  Buttons and boxes also 
tend to be in the same places across applications.  The back button or cancel 
button is always in the same spot on the top left corner no matter whether you 
are in settings or calendar or contacts or mail.

The gestures take long practice, but once you have mastered flicking, you can 
get to anything on the screen by flicking from one thing to the next until you 
find what you are looking for, even when you don't know exactly where it is.

Yesterday I went out to a client who lost his sight several years ago and 
simply hasn't taken to his hp computer with zoomtext and window-eyes.  Three 
weeks ago he bought an IPhone, and now he's downloading apps from the app 
store, text messaging, making calls and managing contacts, when he can barely 
type on his desktop or bring up the internet on his own.  It's an IPhone, so 
it's cool and he wants to play with it.  a few weeks of practice has made him 
far and away more effective on the IPhone than on his desktop and now he's 
wondering if he really needs a desktop computer at all for what he wants to do. 
 Yesterday he asked me if he could do all the gestures on the trackpad of a 
macbook just like he could on the IPhone and I was happy to tell him that yes 
he could.  He's sold.  GW-micro has lost a subscriber.  Not that I think 
window-eyes is a bad product by any means.  It's tough to argue with results 
though.  Windows screen access is running behind the 8-ball... Again.
Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-01-28, at 7:23 AM, menno Schaap wrote:

Dear Erik,


I noticed your remark concerning trackpaths. I am intrested why it could be
so usefull. I treid an I phone but the problem I experienced was the lack of
taxtile referention point to work in a smooth and afficient manner.
I am very curious after the posibiliteis of such trackpath commands...
Could you please inform me about these possibilities and user experiences?

Regards,


------------------------------------------------

Menno Schaap

Victorieplein 22-I

1078 PE Amsterdam
The netherlands
m: +31645548956



-----Original Message-----
From: erik burggraaf [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:00 PM
To: GW Info
Subject: my own little suggestion

The recent posts on things people would like to see in window-eyes have
gotten me thinking, and I know what I would really like to see in the new
update.  Trackpad commands.  Why not?  I'm seeing more and more new laptops
with multi-touch, and I'm seeing the success my clients are having with the
IPhone and trackpad commander on the mac.  It's not for everyone, but for
people who take to it, it's fast, intuitive and sharp-looking.  And since a
built in screen reader couldn't possibly compete up to the standards of a
dedicated one, I really think you've got to get this into the product before
some one notices it's not a feature yet, smiles.

Have a good one.

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
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