after doing some checking I managed to get messenger to read.  it seems in 
order for it to do so tool tips must be set to on or auto.   and some how I 
turned it off in my default set.  so now it reads out who is writing and the 
last time you got a message then the message.  a little to chatty if you ask me 
but it is much better then it was.   still have not managed to address the 
other matters. 

Jim Grimsby JR. 
Skype name: Jim.Grimsby 
Skype number: 909-498-4711.
E-mail: [email protected] 
Twitter: Jgrimsby

From: jim grimsby Jr. 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:12 AM
To: jim grimsby Jr. 
Subject: Re: windows live programs

hi, I am not in the habit of replying to my own messages but I should point out 
that my cursor tracking problems are not exclusive to windows live mail.  I 
also should state that I am  running windows 7 32 bit.  3gb ram window-eyes 7.5 
beta 1.  dectalk access 32 window-eyes.  hth 


Jim Grimsby JR. 
Skype name: Jim.Grimsby 
Skype number: 909-498-4711.
E-mail: [email protected] 
Twitter: Jgrimsby

From: jim grimsby Jr. 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:52 AM
To: gw-info 
Subject: windows live programs

hi, 
first before I go on I want to start buy saying the beta is wonderful.  I will 
speak more on that in another message soon.  right now though I want to talk 
about windows live mail and messenger.
first support for windows live mail is pretty good.  updated to the latest 
version and the ribbon interface is pretty cool.  the problem is that 
window-eyes is not reliably  reading the ribbon.  
windows live messenger uses it’s own brand of auto complete.  it does not use 
the standard method of doing this so window-eyes doesn’t read the offered 
options in boxes where autocomplete is available.  
cursor  tracking in the compose edit box is reliable when reading relative to 
the  cursor how-ever when you use cursoring keys such as up and down nothing is 
herd.  you have to issue a read line command.  
the spell checker used buy windows live mail is much like the one used buy 
word.  so a set file should be included to function like word does.  
you can read the message headers with the alt number command in the list view 
but unlike outlook or outlook express there is no way to read them while in the 
message reading window.  also for rss articles we need a means of fiding and 
clicking the view on line button so we can get to the full article.  
brows mode works good in this program better then it did in the previous  
version.  if you had a message with links in the previous  version of windows 
live mail you might have to turn brows mode off tab to the first link and then 
turn brows mode on again before the brows mode buffer sees the links.  this is 
no longer the case.  
now windows live messenger. I installed it and was able to read contacts labels 
on line off o line away etc.  while I was in the contact list.  how-ever I do 
not here anything from the alerts when some one logs in etc.  also am not able 
to read new messages.  
in the  history edit box the cursor does not track.  when you issue a 
window-eyes command you find your self back in the input edit box.  yet another 
reason we need more aggressive keyboard handling.  window-eyes should have got 
those commands not windows live messenger.   I also was not told who was 
writing a message.  the windows live messenger extension script does not work 
so we do need a new app for reviewing past messages.  
so if these results are not what I should expect from the beta and I suspect 
they are not what setting or changes should I make to resolve these issues.  
thank you!
Jim Grimsby JR. 
Skype name: Jim.Grimsby 
Skype number: 909-498-4711.
E-mail: [email protected] 
Twitter: Jgrimsby
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