Hi Dave, they're not too important, Chris was just using them as a way to force a ding or some other noise. I think it's easier to press windows m to minimize all windows and move you to the desktop, and then press the letter z (usually there are no icons starting with z), and so the system should ding. then, you'll at least know if it's alive and has sound.
you can then try to restart window eyes with the control-alt-w shortcut key. if you hear the system error sound, window eyes has put up a dialog saying it's already running, so just press escape to get rid of it, and force it to shutdown normally as Chris has outlined. the way I force it to reboot normally is to press windows-m again a couple of times, and then I'm on the desktop. press alt-f4, which when you close the desktop prompts you with the shutdown options. press R and press enter, and it should reboot. I am curious if people with external synthesizers and braille displays experience this same loss (as if window eyes has closed up shop), or is it only us software synth users? hth, Chip -----Original Message----- From: Dave bahr [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: major issue with we and windows 7 Hi, if you don't mind me jumping in on the conversation, where are toggle keys and what do they do...well, besides toggle of course? I have the kill script which works pretty well, I also use an external synth primarily on the desktop and the internal dectalk on the laptop, still using an older searial model on the desktop, 15 years and counting, knock on wood. Dave C. Bahr On 3/14/2011 11:01 AM, Chris Hill wrote: > It can happen for a couple of reasons. 1. Sound quits. If you have an > external synthesizer, there is a way to set up window-eyes to allow > you to toggle to it. The problem with windows just losing sound has > been ongoing since 7 came out. To know if this is your trouble, turn > on toggle keys in accessibility, if it seems to quit, hit a capslock > or numlock, if you hear sound you know it is window-eyes. > > 2. Sometimes window-eyes just dies and won't come back. No need to do > a hard shutdown at this point, either hit windows-r and type narrator, > or configure a shutdown shortcut with a hotkey to activate it. Also, > configure your power button to shutdown when pressed, then you should > be able to simply tap it to shutdown. If that doesn't work, you may > well have a windows problem, unrelated to window-eyes. > > > > > On 3/14/2011 10:26, Jed Barton wrote: >> Anyone ever had their system just quit speaking? It forces you to do >> a hard shut down. I've had this happen twice now, the system restore >> screen comes up and wants to restore your system. It's virtually >> useless at that point cause there is no speech. Anyone know of a way >> to get around this? If you reply to this message it will be delivered >> to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on >> the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please >> consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire >> list will receive it. >> >> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You >> can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. >> >> > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your > message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your > message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > > GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You > can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
