Oh of course, I don't expect them to comment or explain anything
about this. I'm sure they'll find a way to make it work just as they
always have. But I also know how people tend to get carried away with
things especially if they don't understand something. I just want to
help explain the issue to people in hopefully a way that makes sense, so
that people don't get all crazy and get the wrong idea. Microsoft
already has the necessary tools in place to make it work as I
understand, so they just have to adapt a few things. Window Eyes
already relies on API a lot and probably more than Jaws does, this is
especially true for things like IE9 or Office, as earlier messages from
today indicate, since IE9 has no off-screen model for WE to rely on, and
the Office support relies on an API plugin to gather information. This
obviously is better anyway since the data an API returns will be more
reliable than that from a video intercept by nature. Just like hearing
the news story from the source itself rather than through a third
party. So as long as application developers stick to guidelines that
Microsoft puts in place (something they should be doing anyway), then
Window Eyes should be fine. I'm just trying to educate people about
this and as to why it is true.
Cory
On 22/06/2011 12:29 PM, Kevin Huber wrote:
HI Cory:
I think that information is very revalent to Window-eyes, or, it will
become relatent very soon, since, from what I read, Windows 8 is not
very far in the future. However,, ot os sp early in the game that GW
may not be able to comment because if they are working with Microsoft,
they could very well be bound by a nondisclosure agreement.
Kevin Huber
On 6/21/11, Cory Martin<[email protected]> wrote:
You may not feel that this is appropriate for this list and if
GW-Micro does not want me posting this information I certainly will stop
however I think people might find it interesting to read this article:
http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/channelpost/4663704
The part which is most interesting here I have pasted as follows:
As mentioned, JAWS and Window-eyes have come to over-use video hooks.
This makes
them nothing more than a nice dummy screen reader, as they can only read
basic and
very little information. In fact, JAWS, when restarted a second time, is
known to
cause a nice memory dump which lasts a total of 8 minutes and 13
seconds. During
this time, my computer's processor overheats, so I do not advise running
windows
8 and JAWS much. GWMicro has a better fait, as Window-eyes runs fine and
is very
responsive. It can provide much more detail about screens than could
JAWS, and overall
I would rank it as the 3rd best screen reader, NVDA and System Access
still being
the first 2.
Ok, back to my commentary. As noted the only things NVDA and System
Access have going for them here are their simplicity and their lack of
need for a mirror driver which Window Eyes presently uses. However
those of you concerned should take comfort in the fact that given
GW-Micro's current initiative to support the latest accessibility
standards Microsoft is introducing, I'm confident that in a year's time
the problem of mirror drivers will be overcome.
This article, while dated and rather byassed given its author, outlines
the problems with the current approach of using DCM or a Mirror driver
for those who don't understand how this works. It gives you an idea of
how the information is gathered on the screen behind the scenes.
http://www.serotek.com/mirror-driver-paper.html
Given that Window Eyes already supports these new standards, with some
changes I'm sure it will fit right in with the new windows despite what
Microsoft is doing to the interface.
Cory
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