Hi again,

You don't usually use both the fn key and the window-eyes laptop layout
together (that's my understanding anyway); the point of using the laptop
keyboard layout is to give you a set of hotkey commands which don't require
you to use the numeric pad, and so, don't require you to use the fn key.

I prefer using the fn key and the standard layout myself, so I don't have to
try and remember an entirely different set of hotkey commands from that
being used by everyone else.

You don't have to do anything to activate your fn key, you just hold it down
and press some other key, when you want to use it (just like a shift key).

try this experiment:

press insert-1 to put yourself into  "key describer mode".  it should say
"key describer on", and from now on, any key you press won't actually do
anything, window-eyes will just tell you the name of the key, and what it
does.

now, hold down the fn key and pres u, then i, then o, and then p.  you
should hear it describe these keys as "left arrow: mouse character left",
"center: mouse line", "right arrow: mouse character next", and so on (and
not u, i, o, and p as you might think).


You can explor the four keys above these, and the two rows of four keys
below these, to get some idea of how the numeric pad is created from this
block of keys when you hold down the fn key.

when you're done exploring, press insert-1 again, and you'll exit out of key
describer mode.

If you bought your copy of window-eyes from a dealer, I would hope you could
call up this person, and get them to give you a few minutes of instruction
on using the numeric keypad like this on a laptop.  it would probably be
easier for you than trying to follow my instructions via email.

The only other consideration I can think of for laptop users is the special
key used as a modifier for many window-eyes commands.  this is usually the
insert key, but on a laptop keyboard, insert keys can be hard to get to.
So, you'll find in the window-eyes control panel, in the "keyboard" topic,
when you open it up, arrow down a few and you'll find it has a group of
settings called "special keys".  in here, when you tab across them, you find
one which is a radio button, which can be set to allow your capslock key to
also be used as this special key, in addition to using the insert key.  when
you've set it's radio button setting here to "allow capslock key to act as
insert key", and saved the settings, then you're all set.  you can hold down
the capslock key anywhere you hear that it calls for the insert key (such as
the key describer mode I mentioned, you can get into it with capslock-1).

hth,

Chip

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Landrum [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 3:11 PM
To: gw-info
Subject: Help with key board

Good afternoon, I am having a problem with my lap top key board I am having
trouble with the FN key I think i probally need to convert to the laptop
layout but i am having a problem activating it i am following the manual
directions.
I am using window-eyes 7.5.1.
I would be so grateful for any suggestions you might have .
Thank you in advance.
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