TO EACH HIS OWN I GUESS. Been using windows 8 preview for months now and I love it. I would never want to go back to a command based operating system. Now if windows 8 phone ever gets a screen reader I can ditch my iphone and get a windows phone.
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Bahr [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:08 PM To: gw-info Subject: Re: Guess What? Window-Eyes 8.0 Beta 1 Supports Windows 8! and this is why I still use command line for some things. You know what your typing and it's text output. Dave C. Bahr Facebook: Dave Bahr Twitter: dcbahr On 10/17/2012 11:18 AM, Rob Hudson wrote: > I was just thinking about this actually. Forty years ago, if you > wanted to use a computer you had to enter in source code one line at a > time on a punchcard and hope to god you didn't make an error. > Something you found out only after the huge mainframe worked all > night. Ten years after that personal computers started getting made. > Ten years after that, they were everywhere and we had DoS and Apple > and Unix systems. Ten years after that we started getting into huge > graphical programs and the old command line is greek nowadays to most > users. Now, we have windows 7 and 8 and ios 12 or whatever version > they are at now, and we have Unity desktop and gnome three and all > kinds of other eyecandy stuff that puts more emphasis on how pretty it > is, rather than how usable and customizable it is. I think life was a > lot easier when all you had to worry about was a command line, in a > lot of respects. > ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:09 AM > Subject: RE: Guess What? Window-Eyes 8.0 Beta 1 Supports Windows 8! > > > Hi Bill > > When I think of the history of computing, I actually find that > everything is getting much easier. Although it is very different. > > where the challenge lies is just when we get into thinking about > something in a specific fashion the playground changes. Think about how > word processing programs like Word Star used to function. We had to use > dot commands at the beginning of lines and control characters to create > specific behaviours. And we began thinking of Windows in a certain way > during the 3.1 era. Windows 95 began to change that, but not much. > Windows 7 is rather easy, but again when we got used to the pull down > menus, which might be a carry over from some DOS applications, we get a > ribbon tossed at us. > > What I do find the most frustrating is when something isn't working > correctly it is a lot more difficult for me to get into low level > trouble shooting on a Windows 7 computer. Back in DOS and using the > CONFIG.SYS file to block off sections of memory and INI files to set > interrupts I could wrap my head around that and know where to look for > things. However although trouble shooting is more challenging for me due > to my background, someone like my father in-law has a much shorter > learning curve when using Windows 7 and newer office products. Even when > I work with new comers to computers from the vision impaired community > they seem to be OK, because they are not carrying as much history as I > am when they are taught new software. > > Vic > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Scherer [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:58 AM > To: Raul A. Gallegos > Cc: Window-Eyes discussion list > Subject: Re: Guess What? Window-Eyes 8.0 Beta 1 Supports Windows 8! > > Seems as though, that the operation of these new OS's gets more > complicated > for blind users rather than easier. > I don't see that as a screen reader fault, but rather the fact that > Microsoft > still doesn't consider the blind in it's design like it should--of > course > that's not only Microsoft that does this. > <grin> > Bill > .----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" > <[email protected]> > To: "GW Info List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:43 AM > Subject: Re: Guess What? Window-Eyes 8.0 Beta 1 Supports Windows 8! > > >> Hi, this same kind of discussion happens every time a new Windows >> operating system comes out. It was true when it went from Windows 3.1 > to >> Windows 95, then again when Windows 98 came out. Then again when > Windows >> xp came out. Then when Vista came out. And of course when Windows 7 > came >> out. So, while your question is valid, the truth is, it's human nature > to >> wonder about such things. Windows 8 may or may not be as easy as other > >> operating systems, but just think of the past history of Windows > operating >> systems. Things change, and so is it learning a new Windows which is >> frightening, or is change itself what is more frightening. >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos >> STRESSED spelled backwards is DESSERTS. >> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 >> >> On 10/16/2012 4:58 PM, Sandra Fouts wrote: >>> So what would be the hardest to learn? 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