Brandon,
If the JFW-style hot keys are your cup of tea, the Insert Key Layout app
accessed with Control-Alt-0 should help-- yes, even with moving sentence
by sentence.
Regards,
Steve
On 8/12/2013 5:37 AM, Brandon Miller wrote:
A gentleman going by the name of Chris wrote to this list with this
subject originally, and I too have noticed the behaviors that he has
very carefully observed, and thoughtfully pointed out. I agree with
him that a solution needs to either be developed, or created in the
first place to rectify those kinds of behaviors from happening. I
know, I know, there's got to be collaboration between Gw Micro and the
various software companies out here, but that's just it, there's got,
to, be, close collaboration. Has anyone who typically posts to this
list ever served in a senior, or even a mid level management capacity?
If so, do you have any positive, constructive feedback or suggestions
that you'd be willing to share with Gw Micro? I mean as Chris points
out, these are problems that are occurring in some cases, the very
latest "stable" releases of these well-known, professionally
developed, arguably essential apps. I've noticed recently that there
has been more than a little bit of talk about Window-eyes being
apparently in several ways superior to the Jaws For Windows screen
reader. Having formerly worked professionally as an adaptive
technology instructor, please understand that I am not saying that it
isn't, but is anybody here willing to point out with specificity what
exactly they mean by that? Please, I invite you to provide us with
some real life examples. In other words, what have you been able to do
(or do better) using Window-eyes, that you weren't (or weren't easily)
able to do using Jaws For Windows? I ask because the critiques that I
have heard expressed almost an innumerably large amount of times about
Window-eyes are, in most cases, that Window-eyes' hotkeys are too
odd/peculiar/foreign/alien/strange with compared with Jaws hotkeys,
and that Jaws not only can, but does, plane and simple, accomplish
things that Window-eyes is not able to. Case and point? How do you
read a sentence at a time using Window-eyes? How do you read a
paragraph at a time using Window-eyes? Not relying on the location of
the mouse pointer and using those mouse hotkeys that are already
defined in the Window-eyes control panel, but a sentence or paragraph
at a time, universally, in other words regardless of what application
you're in, using Window-eyes? It's just little things like that that
seem to really, really really, frustrate Jaws users and I can't one
hundred percent say that I Blame them. Now let me take a guess here,
are you going to tell me that I'd need to determine how to do that
using whatever application I want to be able to do that in? That's
what I've been told before. For example, I was once more or less told
by a member of the Gw Micro technical support team that, if you want
to read a sentence at a time using Microsoft Word, you need to
determine the Microsoft Word hotkeys that will allow you to do that.
Do you have any idea how cumbersome a job that could turn out to be?
Especially in an application like Microsoft Word, or any application
in the Office suite for that matter! I'm all but certain that it is
indeed possible to do using the applications themselves, but for folks
like me who are not Microsoft Office specialists (and frankly have no
desire to be) there has simply got, to be a simpler solution.I feel
like the same underlying principle of make it work, make it work well,
make it work well the very first time that a user tries it out, yet
keep it simple need to be applied to in-demand applications such as
Internet Explorer, Firefox, Outlook, Thunderbird, Windows seven and
eight, the Microsoft Office suite, Adobe products, Etc. Etc. Etc.. For
at least each one of the applications that Window-eyes has existing
set files for. Thoughts?
Respectfully submitted,
Brandon Dean Miller
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Stephen Clower
Product support specialist & App Development
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