Bob, I'm not saying there advantages. There may be some and there are probably difficulties and lots to learn. You can't always get anything other than 2013 with a new system; although, I did talk Microsoft Accessibility support to take back a versionof 2013 and replace it with 2010. That was because another screen reader was involved that didn't work with Office 2013 at the time.
Bill -----Original Message----- From: bob jutzi [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: office 2013 I did the same. What advantages does Office 2013 have for those of us who use screen readers, anyway? On 11/8/2013 3:26 PM, Bill Belew wrote: > I've had better luck with Office 2013 than what Richard describes and I > expect that the access will improve. The ribbon is a little overwhelming at > first, but it does provide keystroke access to many useful features. The > one biggest problem so far for me is the spell checker. It gives you a list > of suggestions and various options for change, ignore, etc., but I couldn't > find any way to read the text including the misspelled word. There may be > keystrokes I haven't found, but it looks like they really need to work on > the spell checker. > > I have found Outlook 2013 to work very well, once you turn off certain > features. It is necessary to get the Outlook Enhanced app setup and > working. > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Petty, Richard [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:10 AM > To: Kenneth Son; Gw Info > Subject: RE: office 2013 > > I returned to Office 2010 after attempting to use Office 2013. Others may > have had better experiences than I and more time to work on resolving > issues.. There were a number of problems, large and small, that caused me to > go back to 2010. I found that messages in the list view would not voice > consistently when arrowing through the list, but I understand other users > did not have this problem. The autocomplete feature for addresses either > doesn't work or works differently in Outlook 2013. For me, it only completed > after using the enter key, which makes it much less useful, in my judgment. > I found it difficult to use message virtualization and had to rely on > opening Internet Explorer to view many messages. I was unable to make Excel > voice at all, but I can't imagine that it's truly unusable; there may have > been a solution I just didn't find before I removed Office 2013. All this > took place about a month ago and there may have been improvements since > then. > > Word worked well enough. Just be prepared to learn new keystrokes and to > have to look in different places for common functions. All that's > aggravating, but something we'll just need to get used to as long as > Microsoft continues to change the ribbon. It's also worth noting there are > fewer advantages to upgrading than I expected. I especially needed better > PDF support, but when Word does import PDFs, it imports them, more or less, > as unformatted documents. I think Microsoft sees this as a feature, not a > fault, but there's little advantage, for me at least, if there's not some > attempt at providing a formatted document. > > As far as the Outlook calendar and the Window-Eyes calendar app, they work > well in Office 2013. I did not try Access. > > If you do make the transition, I hope things go well. > > Richard Petty > ILRU at TIRR Memorial Hermann > (713) 797-7122 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Son [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:40 AM > To: Gw Info > Subject: office 2013 > > Hello to the list. > How usable is the office 2013 program with Window-Eyes? > For example can I use some kind of command to read the word in context > when I am spell checking? > Does spell checking even work with Window-Eyes? > Is the access program usable as well as excel? > Just how in general does Office 2013 work with Window-Eyes? > How does the calendar work in Office 2013 outlook? > These questions have to do with the desktop bersion of Office 2013 how > ever I would be interested to know how this works with other versions of > Office 2013 such as office 365 or this in the cloud program thing. > Kenneth Son. > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender > only. 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